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Bottles and it's developers are very much in favour of upstream packaging and flatpaks especially after the situation they dealt with because of broken outdated packaging coming from Fedora Linux

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Flatpak is the future, no doubt about that. I don't know how devs and distro owners put up with the normal way of distributing binaries. The motto is supposed to be "build once, run anywhere" but sometimes it felt like "build 20 times, enter dependency hell, realize your distro's repo is using a 6 month old version with no signs of updating". I don't miss those days. I'm always going for Flatpak now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

This is a very desktop-centric view. Distros like Fedora target servers, desktops, and other use cases, and each has a separate, competing set of expectations.

For example, servers want everything using a common set of libraries so security patches only need to happen in one place. Desktops, however, are more interested in getting the latest updates quickly with minimal effort, and security is a bit less important. And then you have cases like kiosks where security and rapid updates aren't particularly important, they want an immutable image so the thing has minimal chances of breaking.

My main complaint at a high level is that things like flatpaks tend to use a lot more disk space, but storage space is quite cheap relatively speaking, so that's a pretty minor concern. My more practical issue is that switching from repo-managed to flatpaks is a bit of a pain since many times that release channel isn't well tested, but that's not a technical issue with it though. The practical result is a weird mix of repo and flatpak, which is harder to maintain than just doing one or the other.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

This is one of the things I never really got about the Linux community, like first people are really eager to invite Windows users over to the Linux side (which are regular desktop users for the most part), then these people add in some criticism about matters like these but it's always met with "but server usage". Why is the average desktop user expected to care about servers?

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