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Over the weekend, the allegations returned to the fore, and for good reason. The New York Times reported on Saturday:

John F. Kelly, who served as former President Donald J. Trump’s second White House chief of staff, said in a sworn statement that Mr. Trump had discussed having the Internal Revenue Service and other federal agencies investigate two F.B.I. officials involved in the investigation into his campaign’s ties to Russia. Mr. Kelly said that his recollection of Mr. Trump’s comments to him was based on notes that he had taken at the time in 2018. Mr. Kelly provided copies of his notes to lawyers for one of the F.B.I. officials, who made the sworn statement public in a court filing.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (54 children)

If any other person were even accused of some of these actions it would be arrest first then we figure out the full story.

Put them all in prison, Hunter Biden, Trump, Fucking all of them I don't give a shit about any identity politics, break the laws? Go the fuck to jail!
No one should be above the law.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (41 children)

Let's be clear, Hunter Biden hasn't actually been formally accused of anything.

After this much time of people searching for anything, yet there still isn't enough evidence to make a clear accusation, seems kind of obvious that he doesn't deserve to go to prison. Unless someone can provide some kind of evidence of criminal activity, but I won't hold my breath.

This isn't a "both sides are the same" thing. Not even close.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Additionally, Hunter Biden is a private citizen, and did not take an oath to uphold the Constitution nor did he have access to classified information that he could mishandle, nor did he have influence over our government’s most powerful arms of justice. There is no comparison between what Hunter Biden and Trump are alleged to have done - but the right would sure like for you to think that they are equivalent.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh they know Hunter did absolutely nothing wrong. They just need a scapegoat for when people point out the obvious crimes Trump committed so they have a "both side" argument.

They don't seem to understand nobody cares about Hunter and his "laptop". It's just Hillary's emails 2.0 ... with less credibility because they aren't even targeting a politician 😆

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

And like a millions times more the revenge porn. Imagine if that was the content of Hillary's emails.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile Trumps children and Jared Kushner did have much of that and they're likely criminals. But of course if these people could think, they wouldn't be Trump supporters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well said. We'll likely never know the depth of the gritting or the extent of the damage done.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure we will. Like Vietnam and Watergate, 40 years from now we’ll have all those Republicans write autobiographies about how Trump was awful and how they tried to hold him back and how they were never on board with his atrocities and begging history to judge them separately. We’re already seeing hints of this with the Bush administration about Iraq.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's quite predictable in politics to view the former politicians of the future writing their memoirs. History repeats itself a lot in the political arena.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I get what you're saying, but Hunter did recently plead guilty to tax crimes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not paying his taxes makes him smart. or so i was told.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And also unlawfully possessing a firearm, but you'd expect the right to love that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

He pled guilty to lying on a form about his addiction while purchasing a firearm and not paying taxes for two years while he was an addict (through he paid the back taxes after that eventually I think).

I honestly appreciate the fact that everyone was transparent about this and chose to be upfront and take responsibility rather than do all the shit that republicans do when accused of something.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Oh so is the GOP going to start disparaging people for tax crimes? Usually that doesn't hurt their opinion of people.

Tax crimes by a private citizen do not warrant the resources being used up during this witch hunt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

He did. It was a plea bargain that included dropping the charges of improper gun ownership.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My comments were more along the lines of no one is above the laws Democrats and Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah but Republicans break those laws so much more often and to such a greater degree that it's a false comparison.

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