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Summary: Season finale. Gaal, Salvor, and Hari chart a new path forward on Ignis. Demerzel heads to Trantor, taking actions that will change Empire forever.

Air Date: September 15, 2023

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Funny enough, I personally think the previous episode was more impactful for ending this season.

We gain little with having Day pushing himself out of an airlock. Losing the fleet was huge for sure, but taking Hober Mallow's words to heart means that the fleet was already lost since the Spacers and the General had already planned on parting ways with Empire.

Tellem's story didn't need to progress. We lose Salvor, my choice for best character in the season...

Everybody on Terminus lives on in some form. Their loss had an awesome (in the truest sense of the word) effect on the universe. Perhaps they are just data like Seldon is/was, but either way, we lose any impact that planet-wide genocide had.

I'm not sure how runaway Dawn's story will go but I had higher hopes for some sort of plan or action. I suppose this sets up a Spiderman pointing scenario in a future season with betrayed Day and Demerzel's Day confusing everybody and each other. Or instead we have an estranged king seeking his place as Empire, causing a third crisis.

Lastly, Demerzel is obviously capable of talking about her past, her imprisonment, and her programming by Cleon I. Has she attempted to bring this up with the clones in the past? If not, why start now? If so, has she had this conversation before to torture the Cleons before ending them? Has the Prime Radiant allowed her to reason around her directives in some fashion? More questions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Killing Day allowed them to send Brother Whatshername into the lifeboat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And saving the people of Terminus makes Harry not look like a complete monster for sacrificing it to Empire. It actually makes his plan make sense, which it didn't really if he was willing to let the heart of Foundation be ripped out like that. This way, he has a shadow Foundation that Empire doesn't even know exists. As far as they know, they were dealt a serious defeat with the loss of their fleet, but they believed that they had also at least crippled their adversary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were they physically saved or only their conscience, hari seldon way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm reading it as thier bodies, like how people can go into the vault and come out. We have seen this before when hober, polly and constance went in and left.

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