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I noticed that when I attempt to subscribe to beehaw subs, it seems to be stuck on pending. This has been the case for a couple hours now. Is this expected behavior? I think I read somewhere that beehaw was defederating. Perhaps this is the reason it's not working?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah, you won't be able to. Basically, lemmy.world won't be able to see new posts on beehaw, and vice versa.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Except I can see a new post from Beehaw. I'm having a conversation with somebody on a Beehaw community right now.

It seems the catch here may be that they are a Mastodon user. I guess Beehaw is still federated with their instance and so are we, so I can still see their content as if it were from Beehaw and we can comment to each other there!? But I guess if any Beehaw users join in, I'll not be able to see their comments and they'll not be able to see mine?

It's quite odd, interesting and confusing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

as a lemmyworld user, you are not getting updates from beehaw. they blocked you. beehaw people should not be seeing your posts at all.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it also the case that each instance gets updates from all others? So in this case, lemmy.world's access to beehaw communities might lack [email protected] activity and beehaw's access lacks [email protected] activity?

But I also believe lemmy.world can see old beehaw stuff from before the defed, so that could play a role. I'm really just trying to wrap my head around all the network effects and repercussions, its confusing as hell.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Isn't it also the case that each instance gets updates from all others? So in this case, lemmy.world's access to beehaw communities might lack [email protected] activity and beehaw's access lacks [email protected] activity?

I've seen conflicting info on this. It seems to be the case that beehaw's communities are hosted by beehaw as the "true version" which is synced with everyone else. In this regard, lemmyworld is blocked as beehaw will not send the "true version" of the community to lemmyworld. As for whether lemmyworld can get the "true version" from another instance? I don't know. Lemmyworld does have the beehaw content before they were blocked, which they can still see and engage with. However those interactions are not sent to beehaw, which is where other instances are syncing with. Whether or not lemmyworld can indirectly participate in beehaw communities via other instances is unclear to me but I'm guessing the answer is no.

But I also believe lemmy.world can see old beehaw stuff from before the defed, so that could play a role.

This is correct. Lemmyworld still has a copy of all the beehaw stuff from before the block/defederation. However, I believe it's the case that if lemmyworld users try to comment on it, those comments will not be sent to us here on kbin (since we get our copy of beehaw communities from beehaw).

notably: lemmyworld users can see beehaw user posts on kbin magazines.

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