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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I am glad this perspective is being presented. I think ftm people have a unique view of how difficult it can be to be a man that throws light on a lot of men's issues.

I hope this person can present more along these lines. I think I could come up with hundreds of questions.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I'm a trans guy who transitioned in the 2000s. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on the unique perspective of men's issues from someone who spent 20 ish years as a woman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you be able to answer some more questions please? I'm interested to hear more of your opinion and experience!

  1. Did you find as a man you are taken more seriously by employers and coworkers? Do you find your opinion became more valuable?
  2. What do you find are disadvantages of being a male?

Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  1. I did not find that people take me more seriously at work as a man. However, I work in tech and all companies I have worked are focused on ensuring that women have an equal place at the table. I imagine that other fields yield different results. -- I did want to note that I had the opposite experience with healthcare. As a woman, doctors were less likely to take me seriously. As a man, they take anything I say to be the truth and trust me to make decisions.

  2. Disadvantages of being male are:

  • People are more reluctant to help you with anything and everything, as if he's a man, so he's got it.
  • Harder to date and socialize. It's downright isolating at times.
  • Strangers are less likely to trust you.
  • There are fewer social programs to help men in need. I was homeless for a spell and there were no shelters for men, for example.
  • It's much harder to get a job in tech as a man, because companies try to meet a gender quota despite most applicants being men.
  • Strangers are more likely to be violent towards men.
  • Must be careful around women so they don't think I am a danger. For example, if walking at night and a woman is coming from the opposite direction I feel obligated to cross the street so they don't think I'm going to attack or harass them.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

FWIW, I hire in Tech, and our percentage of female applicants is incredibly low, usually under 1%. I do pay extra attention to their resumes, but often they aren't even close to qualified for the position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
  • It's much harder to get a job in tech as a man, because companies try to meet a gender quota despite most applicants being men.

I've worked at woke companies who fought tooth and nail to say that they didn't give women special preference in interviews. You can't deny statistics, though. If you have 40% women engineers but only 10% of applicants are women then of course it's easier.

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