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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] [email protected] 65 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (11 children)

I will continue to use Proton and their services, not because I support or endorse any political decisions from the CEO/board members (and I don't), but because they provide open source, secure, and private software that I love.

This is no different than arguing about using GrapheneOS based on the behavior of the maintainers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

Oh no... I use Graphene... what's the deal with the maintainers?

[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (6 children)

This video seemed to have been the start of an anti-GrapheneOS movement. I won't get into details, because it's been explained to death, but it's here for your convenience.

I use and love GrapheneOS as well.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the video, much appreciated. Never paid much attention to the project beyond their website... and I'm glad that's as far as I've gone lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't bother videos against GrapheneOS. The lead of GrapheneOS has autism and he lacks social skills. This creates endless loop of hate talk between some YouTubers and GrapheneOS.

As a technical project, GOS is far superior and it is the most secure OS on the planet right now. The lead of the GOS has developed hardened malloc and various other security solutions that is now baked into GrapheneOS. So I would ask people to enjoy the project rather than stimulating more fuss against the project.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Heads up: autism isn't a defense, it's a condition.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

It is when the guy was swatted

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