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If they can elect a felon to the white house, so could we.

Edit: Better image, thanks to @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (38 children)

I upvoted, but these kinds of posts make me uncomfortable. Luigi was a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis. Luigi is not lefty batman.

I am very happy about the discussions his actions are creating and the overreaction from the upper class, but I am not sure it is a good idea to glorify Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Crypto bro working through a mental crisis... not lefty batman...

Batman was a rich bro with severe mental trauma. Any modern reboot would have no problem making Wayne a crypto bro.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When has Batman been lefty?

His generally agreed upon biography is a wealthy billionaire trust fund baby who suffered great emotional loss and broke, who now spends the rest of his life and fortune fighting injustice

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I didn't intend to imply that Batman was lefty.

[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Explain how Batman was not a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis ?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (6 children)

lmaooo

tangentially I feel like Batman could never jive with leftist ideology anyhow. His whole thing is beating and scaring the crime out of people, which is in contrast to the leftist idea that crime happens because the needs of individuals (physical, psychological, and social) are not met by their material conditions.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (30 children)

Good point ☝️

Also batman didn't change the systemic issues with Gotham.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Luigi was a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis. Luigi is not lefty batman.

That sounds a lot like Batman.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lefty Batman is inherently contradictory too. Because a real leftist Batman would use his money to fix the systemic problems of Gotham, and are you still really Batman if you're not out beating the shit out of poor mentally ill people?

Or you could make the argument that Batman solves his problems with violence, in which case Luigi is fucking literally Lefty Batman for targeting a person far closer to the problem than Batman ever normally would.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Because a real leftist Batman would use his money to fix the systemic problems of Gotham

The last Batman movie makes explicit this contradiction in Batman. Batman acts in a vigilante manner to save individuals. Yet, the fund Bruce Wayne is custodian of is the source of the cancer at the core of Gotham.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

That's why I use Saint Luigi. It's a ignore all the things that don't line up with the ideal, and only focus on those that do kind of thing. Just like the churches do with thier saints. Lol

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you’re waiting for perfect, you’ll be waiting for ever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I mean if people are gonna have guns and people with mental crises who go and murder other people, then let's choose the lesser evil:

a) Sandy Hook style shooting up a school, killing many kids and teachers

b) New Orleans style driving a car into a public event, killing many partygoers

c) Luigi style murdering a single person who is arguably themselves guilty of causing the legal death and suffering of thousands

Now what would be the lesser evil in this scenario?

Obviously, I prefer no dead people, which would require regulating guns and providing mental healthcare and a social safety net to people, but alas, that option seems to be impossible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

unfortunately it is also a bad showing of the left because this guy ends up taking more action.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

"the point of theory is to change the world" -Marx. If the left does nothing then the left has failed us. Luigi isn't perfect, but he is a real person who was willing to sacrifice everything, to walk away from a life of comfort and privilege, just to take a stand against evil and to show the entire world that even a god king can bleed (300 reference)

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think he's a hero, but his actions are the inevitable outcome of our system.

When justice can no longer be achieved through peaceful demonstration or the legal system, people will increasingly turn to violence as their only option.

While I won't celebrate violence, I do prefer targeted violence upon those causing the damage to mass murders of innocents.

If you're going to murder someone - don't. But if that doesn't stop you, I'd rather the victim be someone who damages the world instead of schoolchildren and churchgoers.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (6 children)

There will never be the perfect Robin Hood. Engels was wealthy, Bernie is a millionaire.

Really the point is that Luigi is (allegedly) right, and represents a justifiable sentiment of disdain for the system and class solidarity.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not glorifying Luigi. He's a vigilante. The health insurance companies are criminals in the eye of the majority, and the majority can't get it changed through legal peaceful means. The vigilante sees an injustice and takes it upon themselves to enact justice extrajudicially.

As we have seen, the majority appears to to support his actions. His background is unimportant. Humans are very grey. That's one of the things that democracy can account for.

Think of it this way: if he was willing to risk all that he had to enact justice once does that not make him better than many of us? How many of us have smaller amounts of excess, are directly impacted by the health insurance companies, yet have done nothing but take steps that have not helped anyone else? That's the definition of sacrifice rather than compromise.

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