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[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (165 children)

Ten Chinese air force aircraft entered Taiwan's air defence zone . . . Of those aircraft, the ministry said 10 had either crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which previously served as an unofficial barrier between the two sides, or entered the southwestern part of Taiwan's air defence identification zone, or ADIZ.

For those unfamiliar with the Air Defense Identification Zone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_(Taiwan)

Not only does it include a lot of water that isn't part of the Strait, right off of China's coast, it also includes a portion of Mainland China a few times larger than Taiwan itself.

People like to talk like China is flying jets over Taipei City, but you can fly a plane from one city in Mainland China to another, only passing over land, and be in this zone. Mind you, I don't think Taiwan having this zone is bad -- countries generally should be aware of air traffic nearby -- but this is part of a long history of alarmist headlines by western media regarding what is often very uninteresting air traffic in the PRC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

OK, but these articles arent alerting on that type of traffic, only when military aircraft are flying near Thailand, so whats the significance of the ADIZ extending into China in this context?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's exactly what type of traffic these articles are alerting. Which is why there's no need to even pay attention to it.

Also Thailand has had Chinese military visit it's country as well as trained with Chinese soldiers. If you know so little, why comment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The quoted text in your reply says that the jets crossed a half way point over the sea. They were not over mainland China.

This feels like having a conversation with bing's chat bot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ten Chinese air force aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defence zone . . . Of those aircraft, the ministry said 10 had either crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which previously served as an unofficial barrier between the two sides, or entered the southwestern part of Taiwan’s air defence identification zone, or ADIZ.

This is what the original post quoted. Flying over international air space is NOT news worthy. Unless China does it, suddenly it's news. And yes, in case you don't understand, the median line IS international air space. In fact, that's USA's whole point of freedom of navigation is that anyone can fly or sail over that median line.

So if your argument that countries shouldn't freely fly or sail over the Taiwan Strait, you agree with China, NOT Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My argument is that you shouldn't fly military aircraft so close to a country in their ADIZ after stating you don't believe they're a country and that you will take them over with violent means if necessary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ah classic, your all for rule of law until there's an actor you don't like following rule of law. Suddenly the law should change just for them. Hypocrite.

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