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[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (165 children)

Ten Chinese air force aircraft entered Taiwan's air defence zone . . . Of those aircraft, the ministry said 10 had either crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which previously served as an unofficial barrier between the two sides, or entered the southwestern part of Taiwan's air defence identification zone, or ADIZ.

For those unfamiliar with the Air Defense Identification Zone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Identification_Zone_(Taiwan)

Not only does it include a lot of water that isn't part of the Strait, right off of China's coast, it also includes a portion of Mainland China a few times larger than Taiwan itself.

People like to talk like China is flying jets over Taipei City, but you can fly a plane from one city in Mainland China to another, only passing over land, and be in this zone. Mind you, I don't think Taiwan having this zone is bad -- countries generally should be aware of air traffic nearby -- but this is part of a long history of alarmist headlines by western media regarding what is often very uninteresting air traffic in the PRC.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (116 children)

So Chinese bots are on lemmy too now. You obviously didn't read the article - "Of those aircraft, the ministry said 10 had either crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which previously served as an unofficial barrier between the two sides, or entered the southwestern part of Taiwan's air defence identification zone, or ADIZ."

In international relations, militaries have defined and at times unspoken rules of engagement. This was NOT routine flight over mainland China that you are making out to be, but was a clear breach of said protocols. Thus Taiwan sent its fighter jets to observe the Chinese military aircraft.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so tired of the notion that anyone not being in line with certain narratives is automatically considered a drone.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like 6ish years ago we all, liberals and leftists together, were creeped out by the right's sudden proliferation of "NPC" memes, correctly pointing out how dehumanizing it is and conjecturing darkly about what exactly this kind of rhetoric was priming these people for. Now, the overton window's so fucked that the we've normalized deploying the exact same invective against anyone who speaks up on behalf of humanity and against a US-dominated world. I've driven past the ruins of the Japanese concentration camps out in the miserable desert, and to know that so many people around me who act self-righteous but stand for nothing would rebuild those camps at the snap of a finger, or the running of an op-ed, or a scary news story....well, these people may haughtily object to being called blue MAGA, but that sure doesn't stop them from doing absolutely fucking everything they can to earn the label.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Waving the Japanese internment camps in our faces isn't some sort of gotcha. We acknowledge their existence and try to do better.

Meanwhile your type denies that Uyghur camps exist, or claim that they're some sort of benign summer camp

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