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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 37 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I have joked before how people really into stoicism tend to be quite emotional and even a risky, as stoicism always seems to be aspirational and doesnt describe the stoic fans behaviour (a good example is the yter Sargon), but this might be a bit of an extreme example.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

My partner is stoic-adjacent (if that’s a thing; my description, not theirs) and it really bothers me. A lot of “I can control my emotions and choose how I act, you should try that” - yeah stop. We’re human. Emotions are normal. It’s okay to get angry as long as you’re able to vent your frustrations in a healthy way.

Repressing that shit will only make it worse when they eventually do come to the surface. You’re not a machine and you’re not better than those who don’t pretend to act like they are.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

A lot of “I can control my emotions and choose how I act, you should try that” - yeah stop. We’re human. Emotions are normal.

Ye, that's the point? The point is not to suppress emotions but to recognise them as they're happening to you. It's not even that there's objective value assigned to the emotions, it's simply so that you yourself can perform introspection of the kind "I did that action because I was furious. Now is that good or bad?". But it's still entirely okay to make a conscious decision of the form:

  1. I'm gonna punch that motherfucker
  2. Okay, stop, I am feeling fury right now, I shouldn't allow just the emotion to guide me. Let's think.
  3. Okay, I thought this through, I'm gonna punch that motherfucker with purpose.
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