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[–] [email protected] 235 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

It's such an alien thought process that I don't even know where I would begin with discussing politics with such a person.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 3 days ago (9 children)

This is the voter Kamala was supposed to sway with “better messaging”.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (7 children)

No, this is the voter she pissed off Dem voters for...

It didn't work out well if you've already forgotten.

If someone says trump is Hitler but they voted for him anyways...

Then he was already going to vote for trump, and chasing his vote just led to losing traditional Dem voters with literally no gain.

Moving to the right is political suicide, yet we keep doing it because that's how you max donations. And that's all the people running the party care about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ok but... the Democrats in swing states (hell, any state) who said "I'm staying home because Kamala courts Republicans, even though I know Trump is Hitler" are absolutely as shitty as the people who voted for Trump

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

So?

What matters is winning elections.

Stomping our feet and saying they should do what we tell them isn't fucking working.

So if you want them to vote D so together we can stop Rs...

Maybe we should try running a better candidate than we have been?

Maybe no matter how much the wealthy insist on it, just being slightly better than trump isn't enough.

Maybe we should just run the best candidate we can, one that already agrees with Dem voters so we don't have to ask millions of people to hold their nose?

The excuse for running candidates further to the right then Dem voters has always been that it would magically win an election.

It hasn't, and it won't.

It's a bad strategy and we've stuck with it for about a decade longer than we should have already.

What logical reason can you give to stick with a plan that even when it works doesn't get us as much as we need, and fails regularly?

As a bonus, the more Dems move right, the more Republicans do.

So every election Dem voters have their potential winnings reduced and potential loses increased...

And people are really surprised why turnout was low?!

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