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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (43 children)

52% of white women voted for trump.

Chances are that many of the people crying about men voting trump, are part of a demographic that mostly voted trump.

Trump apparently won the popular vote anyway. Most of everyone who voted, voted trump. But let's focus on men and then be surprised that young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway, feel attacked by the left and choose the right.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Please don't get me confused, I don't think it's good this many men voted for The Stain. Also, 52% of WHITE women, but I bet if you combined ALL women, that number would drop dramatically.

My broader point is, IMO, that 42% never gets talked about so why would it grow, yeah?

Or, put another way, when I talk about women, who are my allies against the Patriarchy, I speak of why I like them (because I do, I LOVE women). They are resilient, strong, resourceful, grounded, etc, all the good stuff, and I try to include all women in that, they are my allies. I try NOT to focus on trad wives, manipulators, "gold diggers", abusers, weirdos like MTG or Caitlyn Jenner , you know, bad people (and there are plenty).

But when I hear about men in the ally space, it feels like I hear all about how awful and dangerous we are and that's it. And there's ALWAYS this group of guys willing to go along with it and point and go "yeah, we totally suck! You guys saying we don't are the real problem!" But, how is that motivating to anyone? It makes me upset, anyways. Maybe I'm just a big emotional baby, who knows?

Anyways, I'm blabbing. Bad habit of mine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nobody hates women like other women.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I could not disagree more. There's a lot of dudes who really, REALLY hate women. I mean, that should be self evident.

Also, to be clear, there's very good, reasons for folks to be skeptical about inviting men into allied spaces. It's complex. People are complex.

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