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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (24 children)

The belief that everyone decrying Harris' stance on Gaza was knowingly or unknowingly participating in enabling a worse stance on Gaza than the still-not-great one we would have gotten with her.

Look back now with hindsight and tell me what would be better for Palestinians in Gaza. What we're getting with trump in charge? Or what we might have gotten if every single person who said negative things about Harris' stance had instead focused solely on how Trump's stance was objectively worse per his own words.

By not putting the focus on the absolutely 100% guaranteed WORSE stance of the two, people enabled talking points that led, in part, to where we are now.

THAT is why so many of us screaming about harm reduction and the lesser of two evils is SO pissed off about single-issue Gaza voters not putting in for Harris.

Stop letting perfect be the enemy of good. It leads to this.

Elections are about holding your nose and making the best of a bunch of imperfect choices.

Trying to make it anything else from the top down is folly. You have to start from the bottom up. Until that happens, we will never see our way out of a two party system.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

Look back now with hindsight and tell me what would be better for Palestinians in Gaza. What we’re getting with trump in charge? Or what we might have gotten if every single person who said negative things about Harris’ stance had instead focused solely on how Trump’s stance was objectively worse per his own words.

Can you try to put that into words? Like, give me concrete examples of how Trump is worse for Gaza.

A weapon doesn't kill or hurt less people just because the dealer who sold/gave it away said, "Genocide is bad, okay?"

Those bombs are gonna kill and hurt people no matter if it's the Dems or the Reps sending them to Israel. There are lots of reasons why Trump is worse, but if you're a Palestinian it really doesn't make a difference if the weapon that kills you came from a racist man or a woman who condemns genocide.


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So many downvotes, so many disagreeing comments, but not a single fucking person has managed to give one concrete example that explains why weapons coming from Trump is so much worse than weapons coming from Kamala, for Palestinians.

Palestinian nº1: Watchout, a bomb!

Palestinian nº2: Don't worry, the person who send it said that genocide is bad!

Palestinian nº1: Oh, thank God! And thank you, for putting my mind at ease. For a moment I though that bomb had come from a racist, but I'm glad to hear American democracy has been saved by the democratic party! Now I can be blown to pieces with a smile on my face 🙂

Edit 2:

Here's an article detailing the destruction in Gaza in December 2023, 11 months ago. I feel like some of you need reminding of the current reality, when you can't even come up with concrete hypotheticals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can you try to put that into words? Like, give me concrete examples of how Trump is worse for Gaza.

My friend, he wasn't become president yet. Come back in 6 months when Gaza is nothing but a steaming pile of debris and revisit this conversation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Come back in 6 months when Gaza is nothing but a steaming pile of debris and revisit this conversation.

I have news for you.

That was 11 months ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here we go again with the "it can't get worse" bullshit. Netanyahu will eliminate the Palestinian people completely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

He's already working towards doing that. What I have asked, repeatedly, and which neither you nor anyone else has even tried to answer, is how, concretely, is Trump going to make it worse than it already is? I'll repeat myself for the millionth time: a bomb will kill regardless of whether it was supplied by Bide, Kamala, or Trump. A bomb will turn things to rubble no matter if it was supplied by Biden, Kamala, or Trump.

So once again, repeating myself like a mad person, tell me concretely - stop giving vague as fuck answers - concretely, what can Trump do to materially make Palestinian's life's worse?

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