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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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From transforming daily commutes to bridging the gap for non-cyclists, e-bikes are the most significant evolution in cycling since the mountain bike—and that’s a win for all.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Why not evolve all the way and get a motorcycle?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Motorcycles would be a step backwards in almost every aspect, except for speed. 😕

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A step backwards just for changing the pedals for footpegs and adding a throttle control? I think it's a great step forward, you don't have to get tired anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just off the top of my head:

  • Can you store a motorcycle in an apartment, closet, or under a desk?
  • Carry one up or down a flight stairs?
  • Drive one legally without training, licensing, and insurance?
  • Take one on paths away from traffic and large vehicles?
  • Purchase one new for under $1000?
  • Safely move kids with it?
  • Take one on public transit?
  • Service it with basic tools and inexpensive components, even in your own living room?
  • Ride one without it making noise?
  • Use one to carry cargo (i.e. a week of groceries)?
  • Refuel one at home or at the office?

I can come up with dozens of reasons why an e-bike would be better (more practical) than a motorcycle, for pretty much anyone.

I'm not against motorcycles, but they are basically cars with two wheels and far less utility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Took about 2 minutes to find a two wheeled open seat vehicle powered by a motor (definition of a motorcycle) with most of those requirements. Look up the SWAGTRON Swagcycle. All for about 800€

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's a seated e-scooter.

Are we talking about actual motorcycles or something else?

Where I live (ontario, Canada), the Swagtron you mentioned wouldn't even be allowed to be used legally.

But the definition of motorcycle here is quite expansive, depending on the speed it goes, whether it has two or three wheels, the weight, motor size, etc. They all require special licencing, including "low-speed motorcycles" and mopeds.

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