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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

It should be noted that a lot of their blunders later in the war can be traced back to Hitler (or one of his sycophants) getting involved and overruling far more experienced Generals, many of whom were not party members. It could also be argued that the economy they set up, while impressive given the state of Germany post-WWI, was an entirely unsustainable war economy that relied very heavily on slave labor. That’s not to say they were completely incompetent, but they did vastly overestimate their own abilities and made many mistakes as a result.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Indeed, they made plenty of mistakes, otherwise they would have won the war.

But it's less about whether they could have sustained their empire afterward and more people trying to say that portraying them as such is "glorifying" them or propping them up in some sort of idealistic way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Indeed, they made plenty of mistakes, otherwise they would have won the war.

Therein lies the problem, because even if they somehow executed an absolutely perfect strategy they would not have won the war, not in the long run at least. I agree that Wolfenstein doesn’t glorify them since its reasoning for them winning is outlandish sci-fi technology, but a lot of media that assumes they could have won is glorifying, even if indirectly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not weakness, that is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

You make valid points. I know I've heard enough people who start off with "the nazis sure were bad, BUT..." and proceed to fangirl over every technological achievement made by Germany, even those that came after the allies.

There's certainly a line where it goes from "fantasy parody of real life" to "someone wrote a fan fiction about the fourth Reich and clearly has a crush on Hitler whether they want to admit it or not"

Literally the only way they would have conquered the world is through the wonders of "Sci Fi Magic Bullshit" ™️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Well, that or America not electing FDR in 1936.

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