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I think them trying to win gamers over is just going to Streisand effect the hatred instead. I don't want 3rd party anything that I don't elect to install, even if it doesn't effect the performance( which I also don't buy).
Streisand effect is when someone wants a certain piece of info hidden.
A ton of gamers are already putting Denuvo into discussion - this isn’t quieting it, it’s just giving their take (whether you care about it or believe it is up to you).
The nebulous “third party anything” sounds absurd to me though. It’s traditional for games to have 18 libraries/toolkits from SpeedTree to modeling components to renderware. Quite often half of those are badly implemented.
Just out of curiosity: How would you feel about metrics tracking, which is often 3rd party? Eg, software that tells the devs that anyone who doesn’t pick up a secret piece of armor dies at least 50 times to the first boss? When devs are following that they tend to make better decisions around design, and it’s often yet another library layer thrown on.
I'm aware the Streisand effect is specifically regarding concealing info causing way more attention drawn to it, my point is that highlighting the fact that gamers hate Denuvo and trying to change that fact will most likely only amplify the hatred.
I will be more specific I hate any software that isn't required for a game to work. The reason why I worded it vaguely is because I'm not just talking about DRM, but anti-cheat and launchers as well (even though launchers aren't 3rd party).
As far as metrics are concerned I'm perfectly ok with that, as long as I have the option to opt-in or at the very least made aware of it.
What it really boils down to is I don't want any unnecessary extraneous packages with the software that I actually want. For the most part I avoid games that add these things.