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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 year ago (10 children)

It's so crazy to me that the right wing thinks the left has completely subverted the will of the people, and the best things they can come up with as examples are that people dressed differently than traditional gender norms can read to kids, and that worker safety laws require chair legs to have five spokes to resist tipping when someone is on the job.

Meanwhile they see nothing wrong in dictating who can marry whom, erasing parts of history that make them uncomfortable, preventing doctors and parents from providing the best advised medical care, etc. Which side is subverting the will of the people?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You've perfectly articulated what drives me absolutely bonkers about Conservatives. Sometimes I feel like I'm on Punk'd. How do they not see how what they're saying is often, sometimes verbatim, the very opposite of what they're doing? E.g. they complain about "woke cancel culture!" yet they ban books because it features two fathers, they tell "freedom!", yet they dictate, over doctors, which care women and trans kids may receive, "Curb spending!" vs "trillion dollar tax cuts for disproven trickle down economics", "small government!" vs "let's regulate what people can and can't wear". It's projection 101 and it's maddening.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

How do they not see

They see it. They don't care. Don't fall into the trap of believing that modern American conservatives want whats best for America and just disagree with the rest of us on what that is or how to do it. This is a naked power grab on multiple fronts, from rigging the supreme court to trying to give state legislatures the right to ignore the results of an election all the way to committing acts of terrorism in trying to deny Joe Biden the presidency. They want a white supremacist religious autocracy. They want to establish a ruling class that they are members of, and a ruled class that they can freely abuse under color of law. Everything they say that sounds reasonable, like "save the children" or "states rights" or "small government" is a smokescreen, so that complacent cishet white liberals can justify not getting involved because they don't think that the terrorists will come for them personally. At CPAC they gathered under a banner that said "We Are All Domestic Terrorists". When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're hypocritical deliberately, because being hypocritical shows others how much power they have over others, and that's how they measure their social status. Everything about them is about being on top of their delusional, dysfunctional "hierarchy" and who's on top is based on who they overpower.

They definitely see how what they’re saying is the very opposite of what they’re doing because that is exactly the point - doing the opposite and showing off that they can do so to show off their pathetic "power".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Which is practically dumb in any real life situation. People think their hierarchies will keep them safe and keep order. But you need those people "under" you. All these roles we create have purpose and are important. The heasd chef can't run a kitchen by themselves, my boss absolutely cannot understand Mobile Device Managemenr and needs me there. Hierarchies as rigid caste systems are absolutely bullshit. People are not file trees.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Exactly, it's the level of hypocrisy that makes my blood boil. It used to be that the main hypocrisy we'd see was that they'd all tout family values and then get caught cheating on their spouse or whatever. But that stuff is mild compared to today, with them advocating for small government to get rid of any law they don't like while also wanting a government that enforces their personal religious views on everyone else.

More and more, the only difference between Christian conservatives and the Taliban is the name on the book they cite, and that's not hyperbole.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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