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Apparently the Democrats still see her as a threat, since they are posting ads about her now.
She's fucking siphoning votes away from the candidate closest to her supposed views, in a close election where the concept of democracy is at stake. Beyond-obviously. You think you just can just handwave facts away but you never will succeed at that with your campaign of bullshit. You want to imply the threat is that she can win which is laughable. Pretty much all of us see who Shill Stein is.
"Closest" is doing a lot of work there.
Sounds like you think she's pretty aligned with trump then
She's kind of ideologically incoherent and I'm certainly no supporter of hers, but she is far to the left of both of them.
Hitler-lite is closer to her position than Hitler-delux, but "closer" is doing a lot of work there.
I don't understand what point you're making. My point was clear-- if you actually wanted a small fraction of Stein's ideas to have a chance, you'd vote for Harris. Lemmy users can pretend all day that spoilers candidates aren't real but that's ridiculous, of course they are.
Harris is running to the right of Biden in 2020. The point is to emphasize how far she actually is from Stein and that you're using "closer" in a really loose way to hand-wave the gulf between them. Vote for Harris if you want, but I want you to know you are voting for Hitler-lite to stop Hitler-delux.
Irrelevant exaggeration for distracting from my valid point. I'm glad you feel more smug now though
She and Biden are doing genocide and she's promising to continue in her administration.
Don't you have a linkerbaan tankie pro-trump meetup to attend or something?
Looks like I'm not the only who disagrees with you. More and more people are making their voices heard.
Sure, buddy
Yeah there's like 15 people on Lemmy as delusional as you. I guess that means you're DoInG SoMeThInG rIgHt
I've never quite understood this obsession with telling everyone how right wing they are all the time as a singular focus. It's incredibly unhelpful and annoying. Kamala Harris wants to do some left wing things. America is right wing generally, no one needs you to remind us condescendingly every 45 seconds
I don't want anyone lying to themselves and thinking Harris isn't that bad. You, yourself, are trying to soften her image by saying she wants "to do some leftwing things." That is unhelpful. She wants to do a fascist crackdown on the border. She wants more trade war with China. She wants to give unlimited support to the fascist regime in Israel as it does genocide and pushes us towards WW3. She wants to expand fracking and fossil fuels. She wants to appoint Republicans into her cabinet. She's dropped opposition to the death penalty. She wants "the most lethal military" in the world. She's a cop.
She's far to the right of where Biden was in 2020 and no where near Stein. She's just closer to the center than Trump.
If someone says to me "I understand Harris is right-wing and, despite this, will support her to stop Trump" then that's fine. What annoys me is when people try to apologize for her or ignore how right-wing she actually is compared to even Biden.
Of course you blocked her, she disagreed with you! lmao
That’s hilarious coming from you buddy.
Hahahahahha coming from you
The Lemmy Lefty archetype in full form.
Her ideology is just a mishmash of moral positions, I understand that just fine. I just don't respect it.
The other candidates want to do genocide and start a world war, though, which makes them comparable to Hitler.
Which of her policies do you consider to be Leftist?
I consider her policies moralist, I don't think she has a theoretical foundation.
Many of her policies would be at home in a leftwing government, like the jobs guarantee and debt cancellation and the rights to food/housing/healthcare, but that doesn't make them Leftist. These are just moral positions. I think they're good, sure, but I don't think she has a real plan to make them happen.
Workers' party or bust.
None of those policies sound particularly far away from what Biden/Harris have done / want to do. Student/medical debt cancellation being the obvious one. Job growth under Biden being another. Harris has also recently spoken in favor of unions/collective bargaining as of late. Harris also co-sponsored Bernie's Medicare for all.
Is Stein to the Left of Harris? Sure. Is she far to the Left of Harris? No.
The fact is, the ideological gap between Harris and Stein is way smaller than the one between Harris and Trump.
But you want to disingenuously paint Harris and Trump as virtually identical because of a single foreign policy issue that you lot can pretend to clutch your pearls over and virtue signal about until your lungs give out.
They have no plans to cancel all debt. I don't consider ticky-tacky piecemeal debt """forgiveness""" to be anything like full debt abolition.
Not growth, literally a jobs guarantee. That means full employment, which is nothing like Biden/Harris focusing on private economic growth.
They broke the railroad strike, and Biden is to the left of Harris on unions anyway.
She's abandoned it.
She's doing genocide and promises to do more, she's promising to put Republicans in her administration, she's a cop.
Right of center at best.
Now imagine being so ignorant as to not see how a similar comparison on policy between Harris and Trump would put Harris far to the Left of Trump.
I already acknowledged she's slightly to the left of Trump. That doesn't change the fact that "closer" is doing a lot of work.
A pile of shit is closer to food than a rock. Would you eat it?
Again, to say Stein is far to the Left of Harris, but Harris is only slightly to the Left of Trump is ignorant at best, disingenuous at worst.
Did even you read my responses to your specific examples? I think I demonstrated pretty handily that Harris is center-right.
She's not for Medicare for All, she's not for universal debt abolition, she's not for a jobs guarantee, she's willing to break strikes for the sake of the capitalist economy, and most importantly she's a militaristic freak that wants to further increase funding for the military and give unlimited support to Israel as it does genocide and drags us into WW3
She's a 2000s era Republican.
Which has nothing to do with whether Harris is further left from Trump than she is right of Stein.
Trump and Harris agree on militarizing the border, on increasing funding to the military, on unlimited support for Israel's genocide, on support for police, on increasing fracking and oil drilling and on building pipelines, I could go on.
Trump is certainly farther to the right on a lot of issues, but they actually have broad agreement on a lot of issues too.
Hitler-lite vs Hitler-delux.
Okay tankie
Whatever dronie. 🙄
Sorry, tankie-lite
When Trump steals the election you'll be out in the streets with me anyway to oppose his regime, why do you insist on making enemies?
When Trump wins the election it'll be because your rhetoric pushed people not to vote in a way that prevents him from winning.
If he wins it'll be because of voter suppression and electioneering in states like Georgia, as well as the Democrats betraying Palestinian-Americans and demanding they vote for their own familis to die. You are wasting your time being mad at people that have no power.
You have real enemies.
There's that good ol' fashioned tankie-lite virtue-signaling deflection.
Amen, sister! I'm with you!