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The Nobel Prize in physics goes to Geoffrey Hinton for his work in computer science. What? (pivot-to-ai.com)

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[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 35 points 2 months ago (28 children)

So Geoffrey Hinton is a total dork.

Hopefully, [this Nobel Prize] will make me more credible when I say these things really do understand what they're saying. [There] is a whole school of linguistics that comes from Chomsky that thinks it's nonsense to say these things understand language. That school is wrong. Neural nets are much better at processing language than anything produced by the Chomsky school of linguistics.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 30 points 2 months ago (26 children)

Neural nets are much better at processing language than anything produced by the Chomsky school of linguistics.

Hey mate, did you get your PhD or a fucking Nobel in linguistics by any chance? No? Just talking about shit you apparently have no idea about?

I didn't even know you could be a crank about linguistics, that's pretty amazing. What other otherwise really boring fields are you going to tackle, geodesy?

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

there's plenty of linguistics cranks, but most of them have nationalistic tint, like people thinking that all languages come from turkish or something like that

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

like people thinking that all languages come from turkish

This is amazing, I fucking love this. People striving to create the lowest stakes possible conspiracy. I struggle to think of something that would have less impact on the world no matter it were true or false.

A shadowy cabal of powerful people guarding the secret of "actually, it was [rolls die] Turkish people who invented [rolls another die] language!"

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

then think again, because it was a part of continuing series: turkish nationalism

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay sure, but this is comical. A Turkish nationalist will be a Turkish nationalist with or without this idea. It's the equivalent of saying that Turkish people have naturally less odorous farts and thus TURKIYE SHALL RULE THE WORLD!

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

okay but this idea was kinda central to modern turkish nationalism. see, kurds are not distinct people, they just speak turkish but wrong (heard anything similar recently?) also this is part of the reason why standard turkish is actual common language in turkey

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 3 points 2 months ago

oh, it's like russia's idea of ukrainian and belarussian. fucking orphans of the empires…

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

Funny you say that, as it was the Dutch who invented dice.

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