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Google is taking money to defend genocide.
It's arguable whether there's a genocide taking place. If Israel really wanted to eliminate everyone—civilians and Hamas alike—they'd have already done so, and from an operational point of view, it would be much easier and take less effort than targeted attacks. Using the word 'genocide' so easily really takes away the weight of the term unnecessarily. When a real genocide does occur somewhere in the world, everyone will be less attentive to it.
I love it when I know from the first sentence that there's some awful apologia coming up.. 🤦
That's a CHILD'S definition of genocide.
The ACTUAL definition from the convention itself is thus, first paragraph bolding mine:
Fixed It for you.
Your own link states that "in part" definitions may lead to highly subjective conclusions.
By this measure, the death penalty in the US would be considered genocide "in part" (especially if the judge, jurors, or clerks are mostly white and the executed person is of color, so as to establish that a "group" is targeting another group). A person acting in self-defense with a resulting death to the aggressor may also fall into the genocide criteria.
If Israel is only intent on destroying the Hamas terrorist organization (it is technically a political party, but they broadened their horizons on October 7th, I guess...), and not the whole Gazan/Palestinian population, could it really still be labeled as genocide? As I said, some people will even say a single death may be genocide "in part," so this widening of the definition just weakens the term, unfortunately.
Yes, if you redefine the death penalty into being genocide, it is genocide, and if you shift the narrative onto a fictional, you can make it not be about genocide.
Brilliant points .......
Yeah, that part means that you don't have to kill every single Palestinian in order for your deliberate eradicative campaign to be a genocide. It doesn't mean "killing any part of a people is genocide" 🤦
Nope. Of COURSE not. I'm almost completely convinced that you're arguing in bad faith. That or you're extremely literal-minded AND not too smart.. These are not difficult concepts for most people to understand and differentiate once it's pointed out to them.
Yeah, that's a negative. They're trying to kill or displace away from the area every single Gazan and they're already at over 90% displacement.
No, it's a terrorist organization masquerading as a government. Critical infrastructure such as schools and hospitals are de facto run by UNRWA, not Hamas.
That IS their actual target. Your Hasbara hypothetical isn't helpful.
In that purely hypothetical scenario, whether it's still a genocide would depend on a number of factors, including whether or not they take great care to avoid civilian casualties and only target known Hamas targets. They don't, never have, and never will.
Nobody not arguing in bad faith, profoundly confused/ignorant, or colossally dense. Since I gave you the definition, it's either bad faith or stupidity in your case.
No, it's not a widening. It's a specifying that you don't have to successfully eliminate everyone for it to be a genocide. A distinction that most adults not arguing in bad faith have no trouble comprehending.