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Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Following up from this truth bomb: https://awful.systems/comment/4877052

@Soyweiser: Sorry AGIbros, not even the Dutch believe AGI is near.

For your delectation, here are the HN comments

I'm in the other camp: I remember when we thought an AI capable of solving Go was astronomically impossible and yet here we are. This article reads just like the skeptic essays back then.

Ah yes my coworkers communicate exclusively in Go games and they are always winning because they are AI and I am on the street, poor.

There's not that much else to sneer at though, plenty of reasonable people.

Here's the lobste.rs disucssion: https://lobste.rs/s/4xzxqk

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

oh i dunno, there was

Honestly - Computer Science has given us more clues about how the human mind might work than cognitive science ever did.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I think the one thing LLMs have shown us is that coherent English is less complicated than we previously believed. I don't think we learned anything about actual cognition.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The best way to unearth sneers is to state "there are no sneers here"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

David took it as a personal challenge

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

given it was first comment when i looked, it was Find Dumb Bro Shit On HN mode

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

before you further impugne my sneer-hunting the quote I posted was literally the first one on top in the thread. I thought it was gonna be easy pickings before I realized a lot of people were making sense and I got bored.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This remark is actually part of a long fight between CS and CS people. And it is really frustrating in various ways, as CS always thinks they did better than CS while being blind of the actual accomplishments of CS they don't know and just how complex the subject matter is. It is an annoying failure to communicate between both disciplines. (A lot of people don't fall victim to this btw, but it can be really annoying to encounter a 'Our CS is good, and theirs is bad because strawman', who often don't even realize that various words have different meanings in the different fields).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For the record, I think the Counter-Strike people are correct on this one, mainly because heuristically Confederate States advocates are wrong by default.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Exactly the problem im talking about. What about all the good things the confederate state ... no wait.

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