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My take is that Alec Baldwin the Actor isn't to blame. Alec Baldwin the Producer caused all of the Armourer problems by running a low budget production.
As an actor he wasn't supposed to check the gun, however as a producer he failed by not hiring the correct licensed armourer due to cutting corners.
As a human, if you are handed a gun, you check to see if it's loaded and what it's loader with. That is the first thing you do when handed a gun. Anything else is irresponsible.
But... What if I'm an actor who's never seen a gun.. Do i quit or is it too much of an expectation for an expert to be present and why the hell would that gun be real to begin with?
Just my two cents, and I absolutely am not pretending to have any experience with this. I'd assume so long as the actor isn't negligent or grossly irresponsible they're in the clear. Actors are not firearms experts, and training every actor to be Keanu Reeves/John Wick is super expensive. So whomever is the firearms expert, and whomever was involved with the contracting of that expert face liability.
That's why Baldwin the actor isn't responsible, but Baldwin as producer might be. Since as a producer he'd bear responsibility for hiring and contracting.
No idea why you're getting down voted. This is exactly how I feel.
Then you don't get to touch the gun until you've proven to me with airsoft you can follow these four rules. Simple as. Gun safety is to be expected from any single human who touches a real gun regardless of their job description, anything less could lead to, oh, idk, an innocent woman being killed on the set of Rust.
It's interesting to me that in the gun world personal responsibility is paramount, everyone is responsible for safety.
In Hollywood there is no personal responsibility. No one is liable. It's one big oopsie moment.
This seems to be the case. Personally I'm clearly on the side of the gun world, I think it's high time we stop letting actors treat guns as toys, it is so irresponsible and clearly leads to deaths, and it is litterally just this video. Sure, accidents can still happen like Brandon Lee's, but Cooper's Four Rules is an absolute bare minimum standard that they should have to meet before holding a gun capable of firing live rounds (even if there are no live rounds on set, it is an 8 minute video, it really isn't that much.
Every time you go to a new indoor range, they require you to watch a breif safety video like the one above, this is literally the one they make you watch at one of my local ranges. I'm not asking for a dissertation on the mechanical workings of the Krag, I'm asking for the most basic safety precautions.
In the gun world (the real world), I'm my own armorer. I don't have someone on payroll who is supposed to be an ever-present expert to safety check, store, and catalog everything for me. I'm willing to bet that most of these actors may have never even handled a gun off-set... but I'm absolutely not against giving them basic safety training. It would certainly stand to reason.