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[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (28 children)

Columbine was 25 years ago, those 'kids' are in their 40s now and nothing's changed.

Edit: not saying it was their responsibility to fix it, just that the school shooting stuff has been a reality for a whole generation.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (21 children)

Something definitely broke in society around that time though, and "access to guns" only describes an outlet or mechanism, and not the underlying problem.

Pre-1968, civilians could buy full auto machineguns. At one point in the 1930s the Sears catalog would send a full auto Tommy Gun straight to your house via mail order with no background check. And yet in those eras the idea of a grand spectacle suicide/homicide event would have been absolutely unthinkable, even among the most disposessed in society.

The root problem is something more like cultural narcissm, for lack of a better word.

The concept of a deep cynical anti-hero move like publicly murdering pseudo-random aquaintances is a relatively modern problem. Maybe we need to do a better job suppressing "main character vibes" and narcissism, the acting out and sociopathy that is prevalent now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (9 children)

At one point in the 1930s the Sears catalog would send a full auto Tommy Gun straight to your house via mail order with no background check. And yet in those eras the idea of a grand spectacle suicide/homicide event would have been absolutely unthinkable, even among the most disposessed in society.

Ummmm...

https://www.historynet.com/how-1930s-american-gang-violence-paved-the-way-for-gun-control/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes I'm not saying there was zero violence in society. There were things like Al Capone's St. Valentines Day Massacre, Bonnie and Clyde, the Kansas City Union Station shootout, etc. but these were extreme outliers in society at large and were international news because of it.

What is relatively new is the concept of an average student or worker becoming disgruntled and deciding to mass murder peers in a singular incident, usually with some grandiose manifesto attached to it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

School shootings in particular are a "new thing" - I'll grant that. But in general gun violence in the US is definitely not a new thing.

EDIT: Also - schools shooting today are actually still "extreme outliers" on the order of the gang violence of the '30s. They're far more common than they should be, but they're still pretty rare given the number of schools in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

for every school shooting there's like 5 "school lockdown because of unidentified person on campus"

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