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[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 months ago (23 children)

I don't care for Linus these days but respect for that.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (22 children)

Yeah, I got tired of his videos half-assing the work and the failed reviews hurting small manufacturers while Linus doubled down after GN documented their failures.

But this I can get behind.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (21 children)

Doubled down? After being called out they slowed the upload cadence, are taking more time to make sure mistakes don't get through, and changed their production process. They also formed a volunteer team of "beta tester" viewers who see each video pre-release to catch any mistakes they didn't internally. I think they handled it well. Of course it would be better if they didn't have a problem in the first place, but I'd never call it "doubling down".

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There was an initial reaction from Linus on his forums where he massively doubled down on his stance that he had not done anything wrong with the review model LTT had auctioned off without permission (I can't remember the name of the company). He had even accused GN of not following "journalistic standards" by not giving LTT a chance to put their side forward.

This was met with another video from GN, and overall criticism over the dismissive attitude Linus was displaying. That's when they came out with a YT video, admitting their numerous faults, and Linus himself admitted that the way he responded on the forum was not acceptable.

Pretty much doubled down initially, till they realised that they're in actual deep waters.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would wager money on the suspicion that deep down, Linus probably still thinks he did nothing wrong.

And that the actual change only came about because the people around him (like his wife and executives) threatened/forced him into changing positions.

Cause we got a good glimpse into the kind of person Linus was when that whole thing started, by selling the prototype that wasnt his, then going out and lying about being in contact with the company, who he lied about forgiving him and making a deal to make up for it... Which was quickly rebuked by GN asking the company if Linus had contacted them, to which they said "No"

And the kind of guy that does that kind of shit, isnt the kind of guy that suddenly goes "Okay, I screwed Up, I did it, I'm sorry" without someone behind the scenes threatening catastrophic personal consequences.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Cause we got a good glimpse into the kind of person Linus was when that whole thing started, by selling the prototype that wasnt his, then going out and lying about being in contact with the company, who he lied about forgiving him and making a deal to make up for it...

10'000%

This is what all his rabidly loyal fans miss. He showed true colours during this incident.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Still commendable for taking the heat himself without ever mentioning which employee made the mistake with misallocating the review item to the charity auction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is, but it also genuinely isn't their fault.

He pointed to their failure at inventory management because the fact that they didn't have a functional setup for it is a systems problem, not the individual.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's their inventory, it's their fault.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It isn't the fault of the employee he refused to call out.

It's the fault of the company.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I think we misunderstood each other. I was also referring to the company. Well, both actually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He has a legit point that Steve did not give LTT a chance to comment. "He doesn't have to!" Maybe. But he gave the other side a ton of airtime/chances to comment. It was very one sided and while GN made some good points, it felt like a hit piece. And Linux, imo rightfully, felt a little betrayed by a guy he'd worked with in the community.

His reaction wasn't great but it was that of a guy who was defending his team and from someone he'd probably consider a 'friend' impugning his integrity and dragging them without giving them any opportunity to comment or even letting him know it was coming--two very common practices/norms.

A unflattering view of GN vid is that he felt threatened by LTT labs entering the space and he wanted to get out in front of that an expose"how unreliable" they are. He didn't give LTT a heads up or allow them to comment because he knew they'd have a solid response. He blindsided him on purpose.

All that said, GN did Linus a favor. It accelerated his transition away from CEO and forced them to review their dumb production rates and the videos that are coming out now are better than ever.

Ironically, it left a sour taste in my mouth about Steve and I haven't watched any of his videos since.

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