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Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (25 children)

Every gen Z kid I know is having an issue trying to pick a pro-Palestine candidate. They seem to dislike Biden more than Harris, but I have never heard of trump support. I'm sure some amount of gen Z are trumpers but they are a minority, saying young male voters are "flocking" to trump is pretty silly. "There are literally dozens of us!"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I hate to say this, but you're probably living in a bit of a bubble. I know I was.

A lot of men, across all age ranges, tend to lean fascist. There's a lot of reasons for this, but the core problem is that progressive neoliberalism does a terrible job speaking to cis-het male anxieties, while fascism welcomes them with open arms.

It's all bullshit, of course, but at least they're being heard.

Progressive politicians really need to let the 1990s go. Third-way triangulation worked great then, but it's ineffective now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

but you're probably living in a bit of a bubble.

That's pretty fair and probably pretty accurate, what I will say is I live in a deeeeeep red state but most of my interactions are with post college gen Z so that almost certainly skewes it toward the left.

A lot of men, across all age ranges, tend to lean fascist. There's a lot of reasons for this, but the core problem is that progressive neoliberalism does a terrible job speaking to cis-het male anxieties, while fascism welcomes them with open arms

Yeah I try to explain this to people who aren't white males, it's definitely a big issue. I didn't mean to downplay this particular issue, and make no mistake I do view it as a major issue, but I do view this as a pretty fringe group % wise. Now that can definitely change very very rapidly but I personally haven't seen it trend towards that yet, I would say the white male -> fascist pipeline started in the mid 2010's and while it's grown gen Z seems to ,as a whole, still be very very progress.

Obviously this is all biased in my opinion and experiences which isn't a good indicator of reality but I do hold this opinion until I see/read something which can change that.

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