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As long as it's something you can turn off and remove, that seems like a weird 'I want everything in one place' thing but not utterly destructive of the Lemmy experience.
It sounded more like stuffing a firehose into your Lemmy UI, at which point all you've really done is just make Lemmy a mastodon client, and I've already got several better options for that anyway.
It's not i want "everything at one place" but "i want to break free" :
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=NkAm0u3lqH8
Let's forget mastodon, lemmy, those aren't the essence of my ideas. Before we had people on twitter, people on facebook, people on youtube. Those were walled garden.
I'm striving for nomadic account (concept taken from hubzilla) and fediverse.
I should have one social account where i can talk to people whatever are their software.
That’s the main reason, i was attracted by fediverse concept and word. Its selling point was freedom and bit of privacy :
I should be able to post, comment, like on mastodon, lemmy, pixelfed, peertube...without any restriction. And follow any account, community without any restriction except user, community and server choice.
I should be able to migrate on any software, with my contacts, communities and blocklist. And it should self-update and tell my contact, if i allow it that my adress has changed.
That's what i would call the fediverse. Otherwise, i call it lemmyverse, mastoverse, peertubeverse, pixelverse. So it don't confuse anyone. We can do that just a little due to technical limitation of activitypub.
However, if that's our aim, then the software will slowly drift toward those two tabs and come up with different UI flavour.
I think we should just stop using "fediverse" word as we perpetuate the same walled garden as proprietary software. That's misleading.
The very essence of freedom is that no user shall be tied to a software.
But, please, that's my personal view on the fediverse. I'm curious, how do you imagine the fediverse ? Do you just want the same thing as Reddit with tags ? :)
It's more about the quality of the content: you posted more than a couple hundred characters and thus were able to clearly outline what you wanted, why, and how you thought that would improve things.
Mastodon has the twitter problem where it's short-form hot-takes and basically no good long-form content, other than like, to link to somewhere else for the good content.
I don't have a lot of use for that kind of content especially in a format where it's hard to respond to and have an actual conversation. Most twitter-clone UIs don't do a good job of threading and nesting comments in a way that you can easily follow along and have conversations with the people engaged in discussion.
I'm old and like the forum-style interface where people can write out a complete thought, engage in a formatted discussion that's easy to follow along with, and does so in a way that lets other people easily hop in at any point.
So I'd say it's less about the idea of unifying platforms on a single identity (which I think is a great idea and firmly agree that having some sort of Fediverse SSO would make this a lot easier of a sell for less technical users) but more that dumping a pile of low-quality content into a place with reasonably good content isn't actually improving anything.
(I would also qualify this with a comment that I'm old enough that my first "fediverse service" was FidoNet, so I'm reasonably sure I have a different opinion on the value of a well-designed platform for a single specific task vs making one that can do everything for everyone.)
And lemmy, when you use filter new and new comment is almost exactly like mastodon. :)