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[–] [email protected] 164 points 3 months ago (92 children)

Every day it feels like we're getting closer to battery revolution. It really makes you wonder how different the world will be once we have these incredible batteries actually working at consumer level.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Can you imagine not having the constant traffic noise played into your ears like tinnitus, being able to maybe actually breathe the oxygen nature provides. That’s probably gonna be what it will be like. But still, ev are just a stop gap, more privately owned cars isn’t the solution in my humble opinion, it is a start towards it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Totally with you, but tire dust is one of the major pollution particles from cars, maybe even the worst AFAIK. That, sadly will not go away but it is still leagues more desireable to have everything on electric than fossil fuel. Can't have perfect stop good enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yep, tire pollution is even worse with EVs due to their weight. But overall it's still much better as you said.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It would help if cars went back to a reasonable size and not the absurdly large monstrosities that dominate the market today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's even hard to find an EV sedan. There are like 3 models under $70k. Everyone wants to make SUVs instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's the real kicker. Gets especially hard if you don't want a Tesla.

Many of the conservatives who cite heaviness of EVs as a problem didn't say shit as ICE cars got heavier and they bought F150s to go to Walmart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, I'm all for it. However, they would be still heavier compared to equivalents ICEs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There's no reason to think that will last. The kwh/kg of batteries improves by 5-8% per year, and we've been in the higher end of that range the last few years. Meanwhile, EVs are about 30% heavier. It will take a few years of improvement to make up that gap, but there's every reason to expect this trend to continue.

Also, it takes a few years for new batteries to find their way into existing models. 1.08^4 = 1.36, which means improvements in batteries since 2020 could have made up this gap already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, sure, batteries are evolving and there are solid state batteries on horizon, though probably very expensive initially. There is also a concept of getting energy wirelessly from road, which could further reduce battery sizes. I'm sure the future is bright.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This really only applies to oversized electric trucks and SUVs, due to their low efficiency and associated need for massive batteries, not EVs in general. Mine weighs the same as a comparable sedan.

Unfortunately EVs are mostly comprised of oversized SUVs but not exclusively.

If you're concerned about tire pollution, you can switch any vehicle to a harder rubber compound, at the expense of grip and safety.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Perhaps they compare, but assuming small batteries and consequently small range. Which might still be fine for shopping and shorter trips I guess. And I agree that oversized EVs is all the rage these days

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