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GNOME 47 Can Now Be Built With X11 Support Disabled (www.phoronix.com)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For those wanting to build a Wayland-only Linux desktop experience without carrying any aging X11 baggage, GNOME 47 will be able to optionally offer Wayland-only support without carrying X11/X.Org support. This Mutter merge request landed today that allows compiling Mutter with X11 support disabled. That landed today along with this GNOME Shell merge request for being able to disable X11 support too.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (23 children)

I love the fact that it's optional.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (21 children)

I wonder how long it'll be possible to build Gnome with Xorg support. If I had to guess I'd say there won't be any support within the next 3 years, because keeping future Gnome working with Xorg is work nobody wants to put in.

That said, Xwayland will likely keep being around for the foreseeable future.

Out of curiosity, do you use Xorg and if yes, what's keeping you from using Wayland?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

XOrg is my daily driver for these reasons:

I mostly use XFCE, which doesn't have Wayland yet
last time I tried Wayland (long time ago now on Gnomr), it was buggy and didn't work
I don't change my setups that much, so I haven't tried it since
I don't need the features Wayland offers/XOrg covers my use cases
Wayland drama

That being said, I have no fundamental opposition to Wayland, and will probably use it someday.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Those are all good reasons. XFCE aims to support Wayland with the next release, so if they choose to use an established compositor it shouldn't be too buggy.

With XFCE porting their apps over the setup shouldn't change much, unless you're using Xorg specific tools.

Over the last few years most features I'd expect from a windowing system were added to Wayland, so I expect the drama to cool down. (I don't even know what's still missing (except accessibility), with VRR, tearing, DRM leasing (VR), and global hotkeys being done. It's just apps like Discord that have to cave in under the pressure to fix their apps.)

Once everything works, there's no point talking about it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I totally expect one day a XFCE (Wayland) option will show up, I will click it, forget I did, and use it forever more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap

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