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Disclaimer: I'm no expert on this.

I realized recently there are two common types of Self Hosters here.

  1. I work in IT and host some services for my employer so we don't have to rely on the big tech companies, for economic or other reasons.

  2. I self host some services at home or on a VPS, as a hobby or for other reasons, but nobody pays me to do that.

The answers people provide seem to vary greatly based on whether the commenter is in the #1 or #2 camp. I myself have gotten answers along the lines of, "why aren't you acting more like a paid IT person?" and it's a little off-putting.

How to resolve this? Could we refer to one group or the other differently?

Maybe I'm making a bigger deal out of this than is warranted and I'm the only one confused?

If nothing else, I will call out my hobby status from now on when posting/commenting here.

Edited to add: TIL. I'll use these terms carefully in the future. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)
  1. On-prem
  2. Self-hosting

And I'll argue it's on-prem even if you don't have the physical server in your building

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why do you distinguish on premises from self hosting? If the server is in a server farm or in my basement, I'm still hosting myself my services.

From Wikipedia:

Self-hosting is the practice of running and maintaining a website or service using a private web server, instead of using a service outside of someone's own control

A private web server is not defined by its location.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I would say that "on prem" defines a location, "selfhosting" an action. You can do both at the same time, e.g. selfhosting nextcloud onprem.

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