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The memes of the climate

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The climate of the memes of the climate!

Planet is on fire!

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 months ago (21 children)

This is exactly the messaging of the oil companies and others who oppose climate action now that it’s too hard to deny. They want us to think it’s hopeless and give up trying to change anything. It’s not too late. Green energy is growing exponentially and has been possibly the fastest technological adoption in history. Millions of people are working on the science and technology to solve these problems. We just need some more collective action at the local and national levels. Carbon taxes, funding for green initiatives, local agriculture, and support for alternative transportation like e-bikes or other PEVs to start

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Did you miss the memo that current AI is already using more power than everything we've managed to save with green energy in the last decade? We ARE fucked, the only thing we're still debating is the exact timespan. Which is asinine, the result will remain the same either way.

The only way I see to a path to salvation is a huge pandemic or world war, becausing nothing else will convince people. We've been trying (and failing) for decades.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Did you miss the memo that current AI is already using more power than everything we've managed to save with green energy in the last decade?

You got a source on that? Cause that sounds fake

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here's one:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.02243v1

Below is an article on crypto mining, not AI, but I'd wager a guess and say you certainly can draw parallels from it:

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023EF003871

Also, whatever the source of green/renewable energy is, it takes a couple years to offset the manufacturing of said energy source:

https://www.cooleffect.org/solar-carbon-footprint

So even if there's no direct source on that 10 year claim, it probably isn't too farfetched!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The article you linked doesn't support your claims, is unpublished and reads like the homework of some undergrads.

Training AI models, while computationally expensive, cannot compare to crypto farms the size of warehouses everywhere around the world.

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