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False dichotomy. Many, even most, of the examples given here could be accomplished in a cashless society (not that I'm actually advocating for one, but this is just factually incorrect).
Grandma slipped me a secret credit chip connected to an illegal bank account in Panama, with $5 in it. You want a soda or something?
How would you accomplish these things without cash?
Well you can't give someone cash if there is no cash.
Obviously nanna can transfer money to the kids.
The real question is what is the difference?
My kids have an account with an index fund. When I log in there's a qr code you can scan which takes you to a payment gateway.
Young children can not create a bank account so they can not get money transferred. In case their parents set up a bank account, the parents will have access to that money and see any transactions.
Now you are probably a good person who would not steal money from your children. However some parents are not good people.
There are also a lot of cases where parents don't want their children to have things they need, like soap or tampons. Doubt much has changed about that from the time I was a child. It would be a lot harder for children to access things like that if no one can slip them some secret money.
Can't nanna slip them a gift card for the grocery store?
That way nanna would need to know that the children are struggling with this. A lot of children wouldn't tell from the shame and since they are doing something 'forbidden'. I know I wouldn't have told my grandma.
I'm not really following you. I thought nanna was secretly giving a kid money so they could buy that stuff. If she didn't know the kid needed a secret Toiletries fund, why would she give cash in secret? She would just transfer the money.
I am sympathetic to what sounds like a tough childhood with shit parents. I just don't think it's a good argument for prevalent use of cash.
I'd rather invest efforts in making sure kids aren't neglected in this way.
If their grandma was anything like mine, she didn't know I wanted a secret stash of money for X or Y, what she knew was that my parents unfairly controlled and removed money from my account, which since they're my parents was legal so she couldn't call the cops or something, and she knew that all she could do was her part to help by slipping me a $20 and saying "don't tell your mother."
Sure, it's not the end of the world, kids get abused all the time worse than that and survive. Still lame though.
Like I said to the other commenter, I am very sympathetic to what sounds like an awful childhood, I just don't think it's much of an argument in support of cash.
What about kids that don't have a grandma like that? Or who's parents discover the Toiletries their kid bought?
Much better to focus on supporting kids being neglected in a general sense rather than relying on the existence of cash.
So since some kids don't have a nice grandma, the ones that do should suffer while we "fix" it? No. Tell you what, you fix it, then we can talk about going cashless. Why should those kids suffer while we work towards a fix, you think we just flip a switch and all of a sudden every parent is a good parent? I hate to be the one to show you what it's like down here outside of your ivory tower but there is no such instant solution, unfortunately we do not have an all powerful benevolent dictator (I guess, /s) who can change things at will, our system is slow.
That's the thing though. No one is talking about going cashless - there's just a general anxiety that because no one uses cash governments will discontinue it.
I'm not arguing that cash should be discontinued, merely that this odd grandma argument isn't really an argument in favour of the use of cash generally.
Well, people are, you maybe not, me definitely not, "important people" maybe not, but people indeed are. Just scroll back through this thread, you'll see em. Maybe they added their comments after you or something.
And imo this odd grandma argument is a good example, because I lived it I guess.