this post was submitted on 17 May 2024
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the splash damage this stuff is causing to the cultural commons is going to be extremely hard to quantify, and undo
I've been pondering it for a little while now and even just spitballing on axes of bitrot/vc-exhaustion/etc, we're going to have all this useless space-filling shit on our collective doorsteps for 5~15y
there appears to be some amount of hope ito things that auto-blacklist sites, etc. but since we don't have real transclusion (and other source-strong models of hosting/serving), provenance problems are going to remain at a nasty prominence for quite a while too
and the fucking shitheads that push this may never be brought to account -_-
It’s already too late for a lot of places, imo. DeviantArt for example is overrun by LLM-generated sludge and no amount of cleanup will undo that; and that site has been a staple of amateur and upcoming artists for decades. The same seems to be happening to Pixiv (which is big in Japan), too. Search engines are also full of generated SEO spam and it’s getting worse, with image search being close to useless unless you do implement some sort of blocklist. Which, for that use case, luckily already exist and aren’t bad (shameless self-plug), but it’s still a manual step you have to take and won’t help my grandma who’s looking for cookie recipes.
The silver lining might be that a growing number of people are willing to try decentralized solutions. I’ve seen more non-techies come over to Lemmy, Mastodon and Misskey as a result, but it’s still sad to see, especially because this will ultimately lead to tons of older content becoming either lost or needles in a shitstack you can’t ever hope to recover.
nice. I've got one of the others after I found it a while back, but it looks like yours has a narrower scope?
for places like deviantart... yeah. I don't really know how you reverse that. containment by clearly marking all the profiles/uploaders (after some way it was detected)? community maintained lists which help defend?
it's such a fucking mess. and we have no choice but to deal with it, otherwise it will just make things even worse. that's the thing that really fucks me off about this stuff. all the undue extra work created for many, many people by the inconsiderate actions of far fewer that nonetheless don't care about their actions.
Yeah, that one actually includes mine and covers more bases. When I started my list, I think they only had a uBlock-based blocker, which was too aggressive for me (and does not work properly on mobile), and there were many small uBlacklist lists which I just combined into one.
I think these days most of them are similar anyway.