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Our mobile devices listen to and collect a significant amount of data on us, even without using our microphones.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (33 children)

I don't know why people keep thinking that phones are listening in on every conversation just so they can advertise 'Volvo' at you.

  • they don't need to - we give them loads of data voluntarily based on location data, what we search for, things we buy, things we 'like' on social media..

  • they'd be stung for huge fines and reputational damage if caught doing it.

  • it'd take enormous storage and processing power to manage all that data.

  • Just think about how many things you talk about every day that you've never then seen an advert for (confirmation bias)

  • my Google Home can't understand me when I'm actually talking directly at it asking it a question, so the idea it can seripticiously pick out words while listening through my pocket is implausible.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (15 children)

A few things are very clear: 1. a phone with a voice assistant enabled has to listen all the time and 2. in order to train the voice assistant the data sometimes needs to be sent to the cloud and listened to by humans.

What is less clear is does this data ever get used for advertising. As you stated there are a number of reasons that make this unlikely.

Simple solution: disable your voice assistant. I do this today and I do not feel like I am losing anything. That said, with the pace AI is improving I can forsee a day when I would feel like I have to enable my voice assistant or I am losing some key functionality of my expensive smart phone service.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

a phone with a voice assistant enabled has to listen all the time

Yes, but this doesn't happen online. Your voice is not constantly being sent to Amazon or Google servers for activating the voice assistant. It's an offline feature that only reacts to the specific word. That's also the reason why you can't change the activation word.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s also the reason why you can’t change the activation word.

No, the reason why you can't change the activation word is because each one is tied to a recognizable and highly marketable identity. Amazon does not want you to change the name of Alexa because they want you to repeat their marketing brand over and over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Funnily enough, you can change the Alexa wake word (edit: on certain devices, I can change it on my Show but not my Tap). It can be “Echo”, “Amazon”, “Computer” and for some reason “Ziggy” (someone is a big fan of Bowie or Sunday morning cartoons?)

I know you can’t change Siri, I’m not sure about Google but I assume that can’t be changed either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Echo is another Amazon brand word, and Amazon, of course. Computer is so common of a word that nobody would ever want to change it to that.

Also, Ziggy was the computer on Quantum Leap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for solving the “Ziggy” one for me! And I agree I feel like “Computer” was for elderly grandmas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"Computer" is most certainly meant for Star Trek fans. But yeah, it's a pretty impractical choice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Google used to respond to "OK Jarvis" and maybe a couple other things back when it was new. I haven't tried it in a long time to see if it works anymore though.

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