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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (12 children)

But the system is designed to avoid the scenario of poor and desperate people selling their kidneys.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

His organization’s proposal, for example, would split the $50,000 payment into installments arriving only around tax season to weaken donation as a get-rich-quick scheme. Even now, donation requires a weeks- to monthslong process of physical and psychological evaluation.

the compensation is still there. i meant that any compensation, whether in form of tax credits, installments or even a house is coercive under the capitalist system.

who do you think will be giving kidneys for $50,000? a person who earns $10k a year or a person earning $1m a year?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

I'll admit I don't know much about American taxation, but in Canada someone who earns $10k a year pays $0 in taxes, and therefore would gain $0 from selling their kidneys under this scheme.

I reckon this option would mostly be considered by people who earn $80k a year or more. We should encourage more people in this bracket to be donating their kidneys.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/100k-a-year-is-low-income-in-the-bay-area-according-to-new-report/

Besides, I don't see how a $10k a year tax credit for next five years would be an appealing incentive considering the 'cost' of doing the same is being cut open and having your kidney taken (much more invasive than a blood donation), if your other kidney fails you are screwed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And yet there are already people who donate their kidneys even without any incentive at all. Are you suggesting that with this incentive, fewer people will donate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe, it certainly reduces the altruism motive. People would see kidney donations as a transactional thing.

I said it before, I'm not against it in a more just world. In the USSR, there were medals given for various good deeds and these medals carried benefits such as better housing, allowance etc.

I could see something like this for kidneys happening in a more equal world where people were awarded a medal for kidney donations (good for social standing, seperates it from purely being transactional) with the medal benefits like more vacation days, better housing or a bonus on your existing salary.

Keep in mind in this world, everyone has a home for free and all the basic needs are met by the state already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I suspect it will still feel altruistic; I think there's not much difference between tax credits and a medal. I find it improbable that the altruistic motivation would fall off in some specific non-linear way such that the overall motivation would be lower. At least, you must admit that this bears trying. Even if there's a 50% chance you're right, there's still a 50% chance this solution will significantly help.

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