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I hate big tech controlling social media. I desperately want social media to be federated.

I really love community-driven social media like Reddit. Lemmy feels… too small. I really loved that Reddit let me jump into any niche hobby, and instantly I had a community. Lemmy, you’ll be lucky if that community even exists, and if it does, chances are nobody has posted in ages.

On the other hand, Lemmy is full of political content lately. I’ve basically been doom scrolling everything US election-related, and it’s really starting to take a toll on my mental health.

I know I can filter content. I know I can post and be the change I seek. Yet, it feels like an uphill battle.

Not sure what the point of this is, or if it’s even the right community to vent about this. I just really want to replace Reddit, but I find myself going back more and more (e.g. r/homekit is very active compared to Lemmy version).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 minutes ago

I know I can filter content. I know I can post and be the change I seek. Yet, it feels like an uphill battle.

It doesn't look like you mentioned subscriptions, which gets you out of the 'all' / 'filtering' side of things entirely. But just as with Reddit, you'll need to spend time building your personal feed over time and tweaking it.

The good news is that there's no limit to your subscriptions (unlike Reddit's cap of 50 displayed at any one time), but that you'll need to use the right tools to search the Fediverse to find those communities you want to subscribe to.

The main tool I typically use seems to have a bug right now (based on the recent software upgrade?) but I suspect will be back up in a few days. You might take a look at this, tho, plus other resources.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Block FlyingSquid, it improves the community a huge amount.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago

Block FlyingSquid

You mean the user that moderates some Star Trek stuff and Out of Context Comics? What's the problem..?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

You'd be blocking half of Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Do it before they drag you into an argument, lose, then ban you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago

I like it as a platform but the userbase just isn't there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If the BlueSky migration keeps up the pace, I think it will be a good bet that Reddit to Lemmy will be the next big user migration. There's signs it's already started, within the last year I've been here I've seen the community and sub-communities grow significantly and there's been an increase of self-proclaimed converts over the last several months.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I don't see the connection between Lemmy and Bluesky/reasoning, can you elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Probably the hope, not completely unfounded, that the migration from one "legacy" (from the 00s) platform to a more recent alternative service - twitter to Bluesky - will help inspire people in other legacy platforms to also realize that alternatives do exist now, they are part of a broader conversation that they weren't a part of even two years ago.

Even a year and a half ago, this place felt like it hadn't yet installed the drywall, the wiring and tubing was incomplete. Now it feels more seamless, ready for a spurt of growth.

"Hey... Bluesky isn't all that bad, I'm glad to be out of the clutches of a billionaire asshole, and not feel utterly lost here", now cue what OP believes a number of people will also think: "Hmm... maybe I'll check out Lemmy, too. See what the alternative to reddit is like."

Some of them could have tried it, didn't like it, might come back and be like: "Hey, Lemmy's not too bad since last I last looked a year ago", and here's a clincher that definitely wasn't here a year and a half ago: "The app works pretty good", and there are a lot of new apps, having a choice gives a sense and weight of legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

I still remember the DDoS attacks

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Don't let your desire for something you want right now ruin something you can have in the future. At one point r/homekit didn't exist, didn't stop you from not caring.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago

I know I can post and be the change I seek.

Imo, this is your answer. I'm not sure exactly other solution you want. Content will not appear on Lemmy without someone first posting it. Advertising the platform to help draw people in is also important.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You have fallen for the ultimate trick: wanting a "big" community.

You only get that from big, centralized social networks that want to maximize the amount of content you are fed, because it maximizes your ad views, and their profits.

Embrace the smallness. Lemmy still has room to grow, and having lot of different options for communication that aren't all owned by billionaires is a good thing. The fact that it isn't constantly trying to earn your attention is a feature, not a bug.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think it's that we want "big" communities, necessarily, as much as we want active communities. For instance, if there's a niche game I want to talk about, it's currently a roll of the dice whether or not there's a Lemmy community for it, and then if it does exist already then it's pretty much guaranteed to see 2, maybe 3 posts per week, tops.

That's really the only thing I miss about Reddit, being able to pretty much always have a discussion on any topic you'd want, at any given time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

For instance, if there’s a niche game I want to talk about, it’s currently a roll of the dice whether or not there’s a Lemmy community for it, and then if it does exist already then it’s pretty much guaranteed to see 2, maybe 3 posts per week, tops.

Why not create a thread on a genre community like [email protected] or [email protected] ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

For niche things, you kinds have to go to reddit.

I mean the worst of reddit is on mainstream topics like politics anyways. You're less likely to see toxicity in like a gaming subreddit. (Less likely than politics anyways)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

People wanting more activity than the small exclusive private club Fediverse has become isn't a trick or capitalist fallacy, they just want other people to see their fucking posts. Is that so strange and wrong? Why post things if no one is going to see them? You're seriously missing the point of a social media, if you really think having small nearly dead spaces is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

A while back there was some issue with the Lemmy code and people kept being served posts that were over 6 months old. Peple started replying and the original posters were often "wow, you found my post!" It was kind of awesome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I believe in Lemmy and the fediverse. But the subreddits with content I like aren't here yet. So I still have to go back for that stuff.

But I always check here first.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago

Jokes on you the political content here is from the redditors who pretended to quit their award fueled addiction by also joining lemmy.

Seriously though, compare c/Politics to c/Worldnews or c/News. There is a very large dissonance between the comments shared despite both communities posting the same news info..

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Politics is the one thing we all have in common.

The good old days where everyone watched the same five TV shows and discussed them are over.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (7 children)

US Politics is the one thing ~~we~~ you all have in common.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

firefly was mid, there I said it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Straight to jail. Right away.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The thing I like about Lemmy is that they're not banning you over stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Depends on your instance honestly

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

Oh they're still doing that just easier to make a new space after that happens

[–] [email protected] 23 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

The Fediverse is virgin territory. The trails aren't blazed for you here; it's your job as an early adopter to make it the way you want it to be. You want a community? Start it and participate in it.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I hate reddit as a platform but I still have to use it every once in a while because people won't move to Lemmy/mbin/piefed.

I honestly don't understand it. People complain that they don't use the fediverse because it's small but somehow they don't realize if they just migrate over then it won't be.

It's aggravating how dumb people can be but hey, that's the world we're living in. I'll continue to use Lemmy and visit reddit if I have to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

Yeah. It's the same with Mastodon. "There are a bunch of toxic people making me feel unwelcome" can be met with "so I left" or "so we flooded the place and took over, because there were only lile 800 people there"

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing all the cats made me realize that we need to all participate to make the community what we want it to be. It’s clear to me there are a lot of lurkers based on the influx of cat pictures. The more we start posting in ANY instance the more visibility there will be for active users.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

Whatever the social media ability to "create" your own algorithm is important. One way being a subscription and sticking to it.

Second being keyword filtering. I use Connect for Android which let's me filter out posts and communities containing keywords.

Same thing I do on reddit with reddit enhancement suite.

It's just the nature social media where anone can sign up.

[–] [email protected] 177 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (11 children)

Yes Lemmy is smaller and doesn't have instantly fully formed communities. Reddit has been around for almost 2 decades. Lemmy is newer, smaller, and actively fights the sorts of shenanigans that Reddit initially used to get big.

If you want more niche activity, make posts and interact with posts. Lemmy is user driven- that means you. It isn't a giant megasite where you can just expect to be a passive receiver of endless content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

On Lemmy you feel like your voice is heard more because it's smaller, IMO.

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