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And the Bible being a justification for state executions is such a horrible excuse.

We could justify all sorts of other wacky things with a messy collection of ancient tales.

If done properly it should be completely painless and almost unnoticeable. I have a feeling they're fucking these up on purpose.

I guess it depends on the implementation of proper removal of oxygen and maintaining low level of CO² as its the method used for the sarco pod.

Is there? I've always heard that inert gas asphyxiation is basically unnoticeable, which is why it's so deadly in accidents, especially when people try to rescue someone and fall victim themselves.

The human body doesn't have a "low oxygen" sense, only a "high CO2" sense, so nitrogen and other gases shouldn't trigger the feeling of suffocation.

CO2 buildup is the part that cause pain, panic, and visceral reaction. There’s a reason they purge CO2 from the assisted suicide pods that also completely surround the body in an air-tight enclosure.

The violent reaction can be explained by a buildup of CO2 which is partially how the body signals the brain to breathe more and heavier. This is not usually observed with inert gas deaths which is why industrial inert gas accidents often have people passing out and dying without even noticing.

Nitrogen Hypoxia will render you unconscious in under a minute when its almost pure n2 and exhaust is accounted for to remove co2. The last execution was done on such a sloppily manner you seriously have to question if the procedure was done in such a way that to ensure maximum suffering. The mask used didn't allow co2 to be vented away, their method of execution was only one step up from wrapping a bag around his head.

A proper way to do it, probably not done because cost and some stupid unnecessary procedure, would be to construct a booth around a chair with exhaust fans near the base and a supply of pure n2 coming from the top. If the o2 and co2 can be removed quickly enough the body can't tell its not getting enough to breath and loss of consciousness can happen quickly with death following in minutes. Smarter Every Day has a video on Hypoxia where Dusten, the content creator, is an altitude simulator where they are lowering the air pressure to simulate high altitude and by extension just a few short steps from a death chamber. The host goes through several stages of hypoxia and had to be told point blank to put his oxygen mask back on several times before he risks passing out. At no point does he show signs of pain or distress and if anything acting almost like hes high.

Building a chamber like this for executions would have been far more humane but they didn't want to put more thought or money into it than strangling a guy so instead you get that botch job Alabama used.

Nitrogen has become this Schrödingers gas.

When used in executions it's extremely painful and terrible. When used for assisted Euthanasia it's calm and painless.

So what is it? Not arguing that death penalty is fine. But the debate of the method shouldn't be riddled with lies as it poisons the debate climate.

Isn't nitrogen suffocation how the Swiss death pod works?

This is simply not true. Nitrogen is not the issue, CO2 is. If you breathe too much CO2, your body panicks.

So do it properly and the worst you get is a slight headache. But since you are „high“, you don’t care anymore.

Anesthesiologists won't do it. That's why they had so much trouble executing the guy in the first place: its not a doctor doing it, just a prison guard.

Doctors wont do it which makes dosing tricky. More importantly drug companies won't sell them the drugs because they don't want their product to be associated with people being killed.

That's what lethal injection is for. But they can't get legitimate doctors to perform an execution, so they have to just wing it with hacks, which is why they often get fucked up.

At least a firing squad is full of people who know how to shoot.

That's what they used to do. Now they can't obtain the drugs as no pharmaceutical company or pharmacy wants to be associated with murder...

So the lethal injection was supposed to be that, three injections: an anesthetic, a paralytic, then a chemical to kill. Firstly, anesthesia is hard to dose with a doctor much less when it’s understood that serving as an executioner is a violation of professional ethics among doctors. But also even then the person is awake when receiving the anesthesia, they know what’s happening as they’re strapped down against their will and have the IV that will kill them placed. It’s fundamentally cruel to do that.

Pro-Life ~until birth~

I mean, killing prisoners is cruel and unusual in a civilised society.

You know it!!

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Same thing for nitrogen, or any gas besides CO2. The human body has no way to detect oxygen. It can only detect CO2.