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I have a question(s) regarding the various types of game controllers.

I need a wireless controller which supports PC (Steam Linux mainly and maybe Windows someday). While searching online, I see various types

  1. xbox/ps5/switch controllers : These are for their respective consoles
  2. Mobile/PC controllers : These usually connect via wire/bluetooth/2.4 GHz

Source: https://www.gamesir.hk

However, I see in the product specifications page of the console controllers that they also support PC. And the PC controllers sometimes support some of the consoles. The only real difference between controllers, from a technology perspective, is that is some of them support bluetooth/2.4 GHz.

So I have two questions:

  1. If they are already cross-compatible, why even bother having different types?
  2. How should I decide which type of controller I should buy? It should support PC, console-support is not essential.

Note: I am a novice in game controllers but aware of different network stacks.

Edit: Thanks for the amazing response! These are my key takeaways from all the comments

  1. Hall-effect sensors are a must
  2. Default console controllers usually have stick drift
  3. If you need trackpad, take PS5
  4. 8bitdo is a reliable brand, as per multiple responses
  5. Most controllers have good support on Linux. But haptic feedback can be a hit/miss as it can be platform/game dependent
  6. There are various connectivity wireless standards. Dongles are the most reliable but you lose a USB port.
  7. Keep track of handsize/comfort and button layout
  8. PS controllers have excellent support on Linux/Steam
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unrelated to the actual question but related to the title: Check if the controller fits your hand size. For example, I don't like the Xbox controller and much prefer the ps4 ones since they fit in my small hands better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This.

My husband swears by his Nintendo Pro controller, but he also has historically liked Xbox controllers.

Those options are too large to be comfortable in my hands, so I tend to go for undocked JoyCons and PlayStation controllers because they are better fits for me.

I use a PS4 controller for PC gaming. I definitely wouldn't buy a specific controller for my PC without actually holding a sample in my hands first.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have some experience with Xbox controllers and steam controller

First official Xbox One X controller is absolute shit via bluetooth. Proprietary dongle works well, as long as its on windows - getting it to work under linux is a pain.

As far as compatibility goes Xbox 360 Dualshock with 2,4ghz wireless dongle is the best - dongle identifies as wired controller, it works correctly with everything.

Steam controller works with everything except ergonomics is IMO garbage. Dualshock rules in this area

And don't even think about connecting anything via bluetooth to android - bluetooth drivers are broken since android 10, causing massive input lag. Use either wired, or Xbox 360 2,4ghz wireless dongle controller

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Steam Controller's ergo is great for me. It's absolutely fucking weird compared to anything else, but I like larger grips on controllers since I have long fingers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I bought some cheap PS and Xbox controller clones on eBay and they all work amazingly well OOTB on Linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For Linux, I recommend the DualShock 4 (PS4) and DualSense (PS5) controllers. They have native support built into the kernel, so you don't need special drivers. They're great in Steam, emulators, Wine, and most native linux games. They work in both USB and bluetooth mode. Motion controls work. Touchpad works. Rubmle works. Dead zones are nice and small.

The only features I'm not sure about are the DualSense haptics and adaptive trigger feedback. There was work happening on those when I last looked a couple years ago; I haven't checked recently.

A few people have reported lag with certain bluetooth adapters. I haven't seen it with any of the hardware I've used, but if you encounter it, you can always get a different bluetooth adapter or exchange the controller for some other model.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Didn't a Japanese company make a controller with native steam input? Is that controller any good? The thing with 8bitdo and the like is you can't map back paddles to unique inputs via steam and they only can duplicate face buttons by programming the controller iirc.

I have a gulikit kk3, but I don't love the dongle and don't love the lack of native steam controller configuration for back paddles. Other than that, the hardware has been good for me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you want wireless, one thing to be concerned about is the latency of the gamepad. https://gamepadla.com tests many controllers for their latency.

Personally, I've just gone with xbox with their PC dongle. I only like controllers with the sticks in the xbox/nintendo configuration and the latency is great with their dongle. I also like that it uses standard batteries so I just keep some rechargables at hand for when it runs out. On the downsides, there is no low battery indication on the controller, so occasionally it just dies in the middle of use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I also use and recommend Xbox controllers. Although I wish I knew about these cool high end brands before I bought. I grew up in a time where all third party controllers were trash, and I carried that opinion for too long.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately even the "cool high-end brands" don't seem to beat the Xbox controller.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I read this thread and I saw 8bitdo recommended a lot and I've seen them recommended elsewhere. The hall effect sticks seem to be the gold standard.

My main issue with the Xbox controllers (mine are for Xbox one) is the d-pad. It's not terrible but it's not even as good as say a super Nintendo controller for fighting games and retro games in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

8bitdo ultimate v2 via dongle is alright except it disconnects by itself every now and then and refuses to reconnect unless you walk right up to the dongle and try turning the controller on a few times.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Never buy a PS4/5 or switch controller they are all overpriced garbage they intentionally make for ewaste landfills in 2-4 years.

I really like my gulikit king Kong 2 and they made a elite controller style one with the 3rd version so I'd recommend that. They're hall effect joysticks which feel real nice and are easy to repair and customize.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Using my dual shock 4 controller since 2013 on PC but sure buddy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're right, Im attacking you directly

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Still bullshit

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