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Study confirms Altria, Philip Morris International, Danone, Nestlé, PepsiCo and Coca-Cola are worst offenders

Fewer than 60 multinationals are responsible for more than half of the world’s plastic pollution, with six responsible for a quarter of that, based on the findings of a piece of research published on Wednesday.

The researchers concluded that for every percentage increase in plastic produced, there was an equivalent increase in plastic pollution in the environment.

“Production really is pollution,” says one of the study’s authors, Lisa Erdle, director of science at the non-profit The 5 Gyres Institute.

An international team of volunteers collected and surveyed more than 1,870,000 items of plastic waste across 84 countries over five years: the bulk of the rubbish collected was single-use packaging for food, beverage, and tobacco products.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The top five brands globally were The Coca-Cola Company (11%), PepsiCo (5%), Nestlé (3%), Danone (3%), and Altria (2%), accounting for 24% of the total branded count

I would’ve expected a slightly different order, but those companies also control about 24% of the food we buy, so… not surprising.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They mostly don't make their own plastic containers. You have to make a shitton of plastic bottles and caps to make money and there are companies that only make empty plastic bottles and companies that only make plastic caps. Look at the bottom of your plastic bottles and caps for Logos of the companies that produced them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I didn't know why I'm being downvoted, I worked at a plastic bottle factory making millions of bottles per day for many different big companies, including some listed there. They make the bottles and ship them empty to the companies to be filled.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Really? That's exactly the order I would have expected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I would have thought Nestle to be higher. They are massive pieces of shit that poison children, after all. I figured they'd be putting plastic in the ocean on purpose like a Captain Planet antagonist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I expected McDonald's to be up there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Maccies has had paper cups, fry holders and wrappers for at least two decades, and now everything used within the, er, "restaurant" is reusable

Is it different where you are?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Hey, make sure you guys don't use plastic straws anymore, and turn the water off when you're lathering up in the shower. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The two tobacco companies Altria and Philip Morris International combined made up 2% of the branded plastic litter found, both Danone and Nestlé each produced 3% of it, PepsiCo was responsible for 5% of the discarded packaging, and 11% of branded plastic waste could be traced to the Coca-Cola company.

I would have thought Nestle would be far higher considering how many other brands it owns and how widespread its products are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

*branded plastic pollution

Most plastic pollution is not branded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

About 10-12 years back i went to Dominican (outside of resort's). It was eye opening in a sense, though what shocked me then was the amount of empty 2L bottle everywhere, it was insane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The largest number of discarded coke bottles I've ever seen in my life was on a camel trip through the Sahara 🥺

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No, most of the time you couldn't see the coke bottles for the discarded shopping bags 😥

Morocco is a beautiful country, but the inhabitants treat it like a giant fuckin dustbin. It's absolutely disgusting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

That's because they are the only people that own 50% + of the market.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Think the unthinkable- what if we not only still sold most of our beverages in recyclable glass bottles, what if we also offered money to recycle them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aluminum is theoretically recyclable an unlimited number of times, so the cans are much less of an issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My point is aluminum and glass are much better than plastic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I think one or the draw backs with aluminium cans though is they still have that plastic lining inside?

Coke cans and most pop for example still have plastic inside. Canada even recently made a paper wine bottle, but believe it or not, plastic bag inside a paper bottle.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

When i was young we had glass bottles for everything.

Thank god for PET bottles.

PET is just as easily recyclable as glass and it doesnt break when the bottle falls or explode during temperature swings. Next to that its weighs not even 10% of a glass bottle thus saving a lot of transportation costs. Creating a PET bottle costs a fraction of a glass bottle. Nobody ever died because of a cut vein by a PET bottle. Glass on the other hand...

PET is way better for the environment then glass ever will be.

I lived in the 70s/80s as a kid and there are very good reasons why we stopped with glass. Glass bottles for pop sucked ass, big times.

And the recycle money scheme also works on PET bottles. I know that also for a fact. Why? I live in the EU. We're doing that for like... Forever.

In the end its not the companies who just jug it onto the roadside or dont recycle shit. It's us. We're the assholes. We find it too hard to put something in the right bin. We find it too hard having 4 bins at home for recycling. We find it too hard to just keep our waste with us in the car. Its nasty. Just open the window and throw it out.

Putting everything in glass will solve nothing. Then, instead of forever plastic we're left with forever glass. People are lazy assholes. Accept it and start work on that, not the symptoms.

And maybe... Maybe Carlin was right about plastic. (if you dont know what im talking about, which I cannot believe, search "carlin earth plastic" on YouTube. And choose the longest one for the entire sketch)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

This will hopefully be the dumbest thing I read today. But I assume this is a troll or a PR person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Great substantiation. Thanks for that clear insight.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My insight is that it's my area of expertise, it is clearly not yours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Hahaha, great one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I get your point about PET bottles needing less energy to make and transport, but that is only looking at the energy use and co2 pollution.

You absolutely right there, but the article focuses on microplastics, another huge issue.

Is the microplastics issue worse than the co2 issue?

I am tempted to say "depends", we don't fully know the health impact of being exposed to microplastics constantly. We don't know the long term effects of a planet being covered in microplastics, but it doesn't look brilliant.

So you can't say thay PET is outright better for the environment than glass.

PET is better in some ways, glass it better in others, which will win, no idea...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The real issue is: single servings are wasteful. If you make more food at home you'll save money, eat healthier, and use less plastic and energy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think you have to hike through largely untouched forests to a very remote lake to find sharp glass shards scattered across the little beach to realize that glass maybe isn't the most environmentally-sound magic-solution that some people would like to think. It can be just as (and much worse) strong at causing ecological catastrophies that are incredibly expensive to clean up.

The symptoms are: littered streets, nature.

The causes: fuckfaced fuckwads for people. In all areas of society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's sort of like saying one species is responsible for the overwhelming amount of pollution. It makes it seem like there's an easily identifiable culprit, but you're talking about 60 firms involved in like... everything you use and interact with every day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's pretty clear that as these and the rest of the companies decide what products and services are available, their marketing ploy to shift responsibility to consumer choice doesn't hold water

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember its your straw that killed all the turtles tho.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago