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[–] [email protected] 150 points 7 months ago (3 children)

As a software dev who has lost weeks of his life dealing with timezones, leap days, daylight savings time, date math and other associated nonsense I fully support this being the way the world is. I don't want to go through the transition to get there though

[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Bad news: this has nothing to do with timezones, leap days nor daylight saving time. Honestly, leap days would be worse because they wouldn't be part of the 7 day week

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (18 children)

It's accounted for just like any other leap year, add it to the end of a month as a universal holiday. Most calendar models make it July 29. It's also worth noting that this is actually 364 days, and a single day at the end of the year is a universal holiday.

Edit: I think leap years should be at the end of the year too for simplicity.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Developers are the only people against DST changes, just because of how complex it will get. Dear God cities are removing DST! Cities! It means I need to know if you are in or out of a city to know if you need to be shown daylight or standard time!

Just please do it nationally yes or no

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Write everything in UTC, cast to local time zone for UIs

Life problems solved

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lunar day is 27.3 days and a solar cycle is 29 and change. So we'd be just off the lunar cycles. Like when you're sitting waiting for a turn lane signal to change and the person in front of you has a blinker that's just a tiny bit slower than yours.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah sadly the rotations of Earth around its axis, the moon around Earth, and Earth around the sun don't divide each other nicely

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

France tried such calendar in 1789 and 1871. We lost it when Jules Ferry executed all the communalists in Paris. Some people in France still use those calendars to show their support to revolutionary ideas

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We should divide the year into four suits — one for each season. Each suit is thirteen weeks long, numbered ace to king. Sometimes we have a Joker day.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (6 children)

But how would the corporate world divide the 13 month year into quarters? Don't you know what that'll do to the bottom line?! Think of the poor shareholders! /s

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago

We dine on the rich during month 13.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The solution to that is having 12 months of 4 weeks each, and one week of solstice every 3 months. One quarter then is 13 weeks in total. That makes it so each quarter perfectly matches a season and keeps it all in sync with solar time. In the ideal case you also match the school holidays to the solstice, and the winter solstice includes new year's day and leap day, making it just a bit longer for Christmas holidays.

Yes, I've given this a bit too much thought.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

3 months and one week. Simples!

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We should make the days 28 hours long as well while we're at it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I actually had this happen once. My mental health actually improved, but it was untenable for my job and social life unfortunately. It was kinda nice for a couple months though.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

New years day is always a holiday that doesn't fall on any other day of the calendar. It's just kind of its own thing. No idea how that would actually work irl but that is usually how this proposal is explained.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (10 children)

As a software engineer, I beg of you

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (7 children)

We just shut down the servers for one day a year and reboot all of them. How hard can it be?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (6 children)

This reminds me of a fantasy series I like, where the world still has 365 day, but every month is 30 days long, and the remaining 5 days are separate holidays for the solstices, equinoxes, and new years.

Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Don't decimalize time, instead dozenalize our numbers! Twelve is such a better building block than ten. Pretty much all math becomes way easier using dozenal numbers instead of decimal ones.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

This is how you collectively give the entire scientific community a simultaneous aneurysm. The amount of work needed to convert measurements based on our current seconds/minutes/hours to your "metric" seconds/minutes/hours would be astronomical.

Also, pretty much everyone already agrees on the current system of time, so why change it? It would just create another metric/imperial or F/C divide and cause conversion mistakes.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh god, converting imperial kHz to metric kHz sounds awful

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In preparation for the upcoming Bell Riots, WWIII, Eugenics Wars, First Contact, Battle of Wolf 359, and Dominion Wars, I say we stop beating around the bush and adopt the Bajoran 26 hour day.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I do not want my birthday to fall on the same day of the week each year!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Can we do something about October being the 10th month of the year. It's stupid and annoying.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Blame the Caesars, Julius for July and Augustus for August.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

That's a common misconception. For the Romans, the year used to start with March and only have ten months. January and February weren't even named, it was just the time between harvest and the new year. Several calendar changes followed over the centuries. Adding two months (January and February). Moving the new year to January, which made September-December no longer 7-10. Adding random one-off months to realign with the seasons. And a couple different tries at leap days, among other things.

This gives a quick overview.

Edit 2: To clarify, the above changes were all made by the Romans, they only started with a ten month calendar.

Edit: The fifth and sixth months were originally named Quintilis and Sextilis before they were changed to July and August.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (10 children)

I hate the idea of metric time (for a lot of use cases metric is still awesome).

12 and 60 can be easily divided by 2, 3, 4, 6. 60 also by 5 and 10. Even for 8 it's still kind of easy.

For 10 or 100 division is easy for 2, 5 and 10 and okay-ish for 4.

The 12/60 (and 360 degrees of a circle) are such an elegant system!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I've actual been saying this for years for this exact reason. God forbid we not be able to divide a year into clean quarters.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, decimalized time. An idea so bad even the French said no, just no after trying it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can we start the 1st on Sunday though so every month has a Friday the 13th?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

I like it.

But mostly because of all the furor it’ll cause.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

You left out one day 28x13 is 364 The alignment to the weekdays is only right every seventh year. Every sixth of you account for leap years.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That day would be new year's day, not an ordinary day. So those weeks would be

  • Mon-Sun
  • Leap day/international holiday, undated
  • Mon-Sun
[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Leap day/international holiday, undated

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of developers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Just make inconvenient days holidays, few will complain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

i'm intrigued, but leap days would fuck it up though

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (6 children)

This meme already ignores the fact that it's only produced a calendar of 364 days.

Most proposed versions I've seen of this calendar have New Year's Day as a standalone holiday, so the leap day presumably tacks on to that every 4 years?

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