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[-] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago

The Fasces is a really good symbol for fascism: an implement that appears equal parts tool and weapon but is ultimately ceremonial, a flimsy looking clumsy approximation of utility and power

[-] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

The original parable of the Fasces is basically the argument behind unionism.

But Fascism loves to appropriate icons of left wing movements and pervert them. That's nothing new.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

five fingers make a fist, etc etc

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

So funny story, the Fasces was apparently used as the symbol of the Consul during the Roman republic, but became much more associated with the Empire, when the Empire reached the territorial heights. It became the symbol of Mussolini and his party because Mussolini liked to pretend that Italy was about to become a great power and conquer the rest of Europe like Rome did during antiqueity, and to that end he used the classical roman symbol of the Fasces, which was meant to denote strength through unity.

The main reason it's seen everywhere in the US, is because the US (up until like 2002) liked using Roman imperial iconography, until Bush made everyone a rabid jingoist that just put flags everywhere.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

Shh no one tell them what's behind the US house speaker. ๐Ÿคซ

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Further proof that America is secretly being controlled and undermined by nefarious Communists.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Definitely not a civic religion

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

my george washington OC has rippling abs and highly detailed feet

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Guy who got mad about an assumed frenchman stealing his slaves away from him (ripped)

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

The cutting edge of the sickle is on the inside. This shouldn't bother me as much as it does.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

This counts as theory for liberals

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

...what. I don't even know what the image on the left is. I'm gonna guess it's some Nazi shit.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's called a fasces, the root word for fascism.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Holy fucking shit. Bro the amount of fucking dog whistles and esoteric Nazi symbols we need to keep track of is mind blowing.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

the amount of fucking dog whistles and esoteric Nazi symbols we need to keep track of is mind blowing.

agreed, though i wouldn't call the fasces esoteric. it's kinda the original fascist symbol used by the very first fascist party. it's right up there with the swastika as the most well known symbols of fascism. And much like the swastika it's a very old symbol that has pre-fascist meaning as well. it technically dates to Etruscan monarchies before Rome existed. The fasces was also used by Republicans (i.e. bourgeois nationalists) in the 1700s and 1800s. Both the French revolutionary movement and the American independence movement were fond of fasces. You can see the fasces in the house of representatives on either side of the speaker's chair.

(not trying to give you a hard time, just providing some extra historical context for it)

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

No, I get it. This one was on my lack of knowledge. But in my defence, I was not taught any of this.

I also find it interesting that some people get pressed about other cultures continuing to use the Swastika (as it was originally intended, not the tilted version ofc), especially when people from those cultures immigrate to the West and demand they get rid of it because "of what it means in Western history" but no one seems to care that this seemingly equally big symbol is being trotted around in the fucking Congress with no issues.

Anyways, thanks for educating me on the history. I'll keep this one in mind, if I ever see it (esp. the explicitly fascist one) in any media I consume. I think I've seen the OG one floating about in some parts but I can't quite recall.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

This isn't esoteric. It's their straight up logo

[-] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

My "favorite" place you can find them is literally the Lincoln Memorial

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

E Pluribus Unum

Quite literally the symbol of the Union.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Which, is important to point out, is from before fascism. (Because order in time matters, and some people don't know when things happened.)

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Well... that's sort of a chicken-egg question. I'm not betting that fascist tendencies in social circles post-dated the allegory of the Fasces. I'm sure you can find them going back thousands of years.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Having to put up with socieities that are on The Riddler levels of "slap symbols everywhere for the hell of it" bullshit sucks. Fucking pattern-brained great ape pieces of shit

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Smoking a joint and then getting the munchies for some cheddar.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

๐Ÿšฌ blunt

๐Ÿ’‰ sharp

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Hits blunt: "sharp"

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