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When people complained about low pay, I believed them, but I had no idea it was this bad.
On the other hand, it also gives me hope that the actors are less likely to “lose their houses” as a result of striking. If they aren’t making a living wage and need to have side jobs anyway, I’m more confident that a lot of them can find solutions. This is going to hurt Hollywood a lot more than it hurts them. Good.
I didn’t know Mara Wilson acted again. Mostly seen her on Twitter, and she’s written a book. My impression was that she was kind of over the industry.
Reprehensible greedy fucks, can’t even manage to pay a living wage let alone a fair one.
been seeing a lot of talk regarding unionizing and striking, which has been awesome in a sad way, but this is one that is truly powerful given how connected society is to the media they all work to create. UPS, trains those things are big and this feels like a strong candidate for third under them. They can win this but people are selfish af so time will tell if the execs budge.
Bastards
It sounds to me like the industry is set up to fuck over the talent pretty hard on streaming residuals, but it's real hard to garner much sympathy for people crying about only earning $900/day and only having to do that 4 days a month. Yeah, taxes suck for everyone. We don't get managers and publicists and lawyers to help with any of that shit. Even if you blow out half of your check, that's a huge number of advantages none of the rest of us can reasonably expect at any job. $1800 a month doesn't cover rent in NY, but can you name another job that can clear that much working only 4 days out of the month? I'm sorry you have to part time to make up the difference, but that's the reality for pretty much everyone. I know people working 3 jobs who don't make $900 a day. They just happen to work a lot more to make up the difference.
All of that being said, residuals from just bojack should probably be more than $26k a year. What are the numbers for revenue generated by that series alone per year? $26k has to be a drop in the bucket
I am in no way defending actors' pay rates here but it's wrong to distill their work down to just days they get paid. You don't just show up on set, get the script, and start filming..
If they're required to be somewhere and do something, they get paid. That's what a job is about. If they have to be at a reading, paid. If they have to dry run with the crew, paid. If they have to wait around and fluff themselves for 6 hours waiting to shoot, paid. Sure, they probably read and practice on their own time, which they have a LOT of considering 4 days a month. But even as a welder, I think about work stuff in my off time too. I just have to actually do it for work a lot more often.
Well then where does your 4 day claim come from? You can't do all those things in 4 days a month.
To your job point, I think about work in my free time, too. But our work remains much more similar day-to-day, we don't need to *practice" in our off-time for each new job. That's very different to being an irreplaceable part of a movie so unless your an expert in a very niche industry, you and I are replaceable at work. We may be great at our jobs but if we get hit by a bus, our bosses would hire new employees next week. They have to practice, train, learn new skills, etc.
At the end of the day, if a movie could not be made without the cooperation of the artists, those artists deserve a bigger piece of the pie than they're getting. What do the executives who is completely disconnected from the production bring to the table to deserve such a high percentage of the profits?
Did you not read the article?
"And assuming you work four days a month – we're talking $1800 for a months work, and you live in New York City. That doesn't make rent."
Direct quote from the article where one of the orange is the new black actors talking about their pay.
Maybe we should call in someone with a bit more first-hand knowledge like our favorite Lemmy user TotallyNotMargotRobbie (I don't know how to tag people though)
Honestly high paid actors are over valued. Stars shouldn't make so much and should have to pay 50-80% back to the guild as a tax. The guild helped developed good actors so if a company requests them and they are high demand they can subsidize everyone else.
Idk the numbers for the movie industry. But every worker in America generates over 100k a year worth of value yet the median income is under 50k
Or...the corporations could keep slightly less profit and actually pay people for their labor?
Why not both this includes CEOs. There is no good reason for the pay disparity of 5-10 million and 25k in the acting profession
Yeah its sorta funny how it went from vaudville to superstars. I mean im pretty sure reagan did pretty well outside of what he got from politics. Can you believe that???