Maybe your pops shouldn’t have done all he could to empower the fascist “unitary executive” theory then, Liz. I mean, I agree with her in principle in this specific instance but it’s tough when her dad is a huge reason we’re in this mess.
This is purely an outsiders perspective here, but I've never really had much control over what my dad did in his life. Is it different in the US?
My dad is deeply troubled about where our party is, deeply troubled about where the country is,” Cheney, R-Wyo., said at an event held by the Aspen Institute, adding that her father, who served with former President George W. Bush, is a “tremendous source of advice and guidance and wisdom.”
She’s part of the problem.
Yeah sure. You are probably right. But also not the main part of the problem? I mean, I'm not trying to paint her as a savior or a saint, but she's also not actively trying to dismantle the system, right? There's a lot of that going around, from way too many of her colleagues, as far as I can tell. Idk, it just seemed like a nice thing, for someone to call out many of these horrid tendencies we've been seeing lately, and as far as hypocrites go, you can find way worse than Liz Cheney.
I agree with that. I respect that she had a spine when the rest of her party did not and she was willing to pay for that principled stand. I still have an issue with her selective blindness towards her father’s actions as VP but it’s at least an understandable human characteristic for many to put their parents up on a pedestal.
I just want to tell you that this rotten meatbag was the one who advocated for balkanisation of Russia, partly responsible for what led to the CIA coup attempts in 2003 (Orange, failed) and 2013 (Maidan, success), and whatever followed through with the sudden annihilation of Western SWIFT economy and display of spectacular failure of NATO's military capabilities in Ukraine.
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/02/01/dick-cheney-us-goal-break-up-russia/
The system is broken and the Bush Family is a big reason why it is. This is part of some bullshit to get liberals like you to accept the GoP as "moderate" when in actuality there is no difference between Bush and Co and Trump. Trump was just loud about it and the reason Cheney doesn't like him. If you actually compare Bush and Trump I think trump comes out ahead as far as atrocities and fascism go.
Don't fall for it.
Don't assume so much about me please. This other guy sent me a link about how cheney wanted to balkanize China and Russia, and maybe that's not the worst idea. But it got me thinking. Why stop there? Balkanize the US too why not. They are, all three, too big and ducked up anyway. Also, an outsiders perspective, remember? I don't really have a dog in this fight. Ofc the world will suffer bigly, if Trump, and the fascists backing him, gets their will. But we all know this. So why not at least try to focus on a glimmer of compassion once in a while?
Yes. If he wins, the Trumps will rule the USA for a long long time, and you guys can kiss your beloved constitution goodbye.
IDK, he's like 80yo, he can't really have that much time left. I think it's more likely that, assuming he gets elected, he has a heart attack before he finishes his term and the VP (whoever that is) takes over.
But he as children.
Well, if you trust a guy who already tried to overturn the government to reform your constitution , I guess you deserve what you get. Trump only cares about one thing, himself. If you cant see that, you are deeply brainwashed, sorry to inform you. He will throw you and your people under the bus at the very second and will see no use in you, like he does every damn day.
I did not know Dick Cheney and his lineage still existed. Rotten shitbags.
Pretty hilarious how Cheney has now become a liberal icon.
Liberals long for the bush/clinton years, it was a big reason Hillary Clinton still has the support she has.
Indeed, it's the nostalgia for a time when liberal world view was essentially unchallenged.
Nah we're living in a nightmare with sleep paralysis, lady
She's just upset that her father's not running hlthw dictatorship
if he gets the nomination, sure, maybe. quite a few other hats are going to be thrown into the ring.