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[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A site or source has to earn the credit before it can be discredited.

You can attack the one making the critique all you want and it doesn’t establish actual credibility for the original source. The grayzone’s weaknesses in misleading coverage and sympathetic coverage of authoritarian regimes is well noted in academic journals and other sources cited the references on their Wikipedia page.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That would be literally devastating if I had cited Wikipedia itself instead of using it as a way to point you to a long list of citations from far more authoritative sources without wasting my time typing them all out again.

Good effort though.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’ve been watching the Five Eyes governments and Anglosphere corporate media try to squelch The Grayzone for years.

It would be devastating if you were to read Inventing Reality or Manufacturing Consent.

You know who else was on RT? Chris Hedges. Why was he there? Because he was right about Iraq’s supposed WMDs, so corporate media permanently shunned him. Meanwhile people who got it wrong, like Anderson Cooper, are still prominent corporate media figures, because they’ve proven to be reliable lap dogs. I mean, Cooper interned at the CIA.

Corporate media obviously aren’t going to want to correct their coverage of Victoria Nuland & co’s Maidan coup.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

You didn't read a single reference on their Wikipedia page, just the fact that they're there is enough for you. Regardless, I fail to see any evidence of "misleading coverage," and "sympathetic coverage" is a non-issue except for the fact that these are "authoritarian regimes." What this means is unknown, since the main examples cited (Syria, China, and Venezuela) each have a much lower amt. of prisoners per-capita and in totality (significant because of China's population) than the U.S., and China has a significantly lower amt. of police per-capita.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Wikipedia's sources are in no way curated to fit a specific narrative. he-laughed

[-] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Buddy you just cited Wikipedia. If you wanted me to believe you'd read the "long list of more authoritative sources" that the article contains, then you would have cited the articles instead of Wikipedia. This is the bare minimum you dumbass, you're below high school level right now.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

You did cite Wikipedia itself.

Did... did you forget? Already?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Citing Wikipedia is lazy and reflects a lack of effort. Do better.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Actually, it still wouldn't have been devastating because it continues to ignore the credibility of The Grayzone as the subject matter of the comment thread. It's just doubling down on the original tangent.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Buddy nobody is impressed with your media criticism process of regurgitating Media Bias Fact Check and Wikipedia. It's actually an announcement that you have no familiarity with any of this and don't know how to critically consume media yourself. Ironically you're going to mislead yourself by simply uncritically accepting what is written in those two websites.

Rather than searching around for someone else to tell you what to think about The Gray Zone, why not critically engage with the content? What do they cite? What topic are they discussing? Do you know anything about it? To what are they responding? Are their criticisms valid?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Citing Wikipedia? Lmao

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