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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Morris Chang said it decades ago, but the US will need to import a lot of talented engineers and workers if we plan on actually having some amount of self sufficiency in chip design on the leading edge of the industry. IMO, there was zero chance they were ever going to have that fab running by 2024, just given the amount of time other fabs have taken from tool-in to production runs. But this sort of announcement means things are significantly worse than previously imagined.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I can assure you, engineers are out there who want to work in the US - both local and foreign. They just don't want to work in Arizona.

The climate in California is already bad enough, but at least Cali has some upsides.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You do know that AZ is one of the largest engineering states in the country right? Motorola, Stryker, Infosys,Cisco,Honeywell, Raytheon, general dynamics, on semiconductor. And more that I don't want to type all have r&d and fab in or near PHX. This is all about TSMC coming in thinking they are hot shot and that their name is worth more that the paycheck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot the highest volume Intel fab in the world XD. But you're right Arizona at least has nice weather almost half of the year and tons of hot jobs in tech. The issue is with the work culture at TSMC and not the location

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

and tons of hot jobs in tech You probably didn't intend the pun, but you made a good one anyway.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cali is for pumping consumers as much as possible az is making the most advanced systems the military can think of. It's not a shortage of qualified engineers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It is a shortage of qualified engineers. It's literally that.

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