Hacker News

4123 readers

1 users here now

This community serves to share top posts on Hacker News with the wider fediverse.

Rules

0. Keep it legal

Keep it civil and SFW
Keep it safe for members of marginalised groups

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Volkswagen Admits Failure, Will Bring Back Physical Buttons (afronomist.com)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

21 comments fedilink hide all child comments

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This has been a gripe of mine for a looong time and not just in cars. For fuck sake, my fucking oven is touch screen and has wifi. why?

Every time I wipe it off, it thinks I'm touching 37 buttons and it overwelms the CPU, and the system restarts

Never again

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Same with fucking electric stove tops. Why am I to use touch controls on the same surface that heats my pots and pans? Idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess I disagree on that one. If you’re talking induction, that is. For me, it’s a magical slab of glass that heats my food and is ridiculously easy to clean thanks for the touch buttons. Wipe wipe and it’s clean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At least on induction there's some safety. Regular electric ones however...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, that makes sense. I’m only used to induction and the regular old gas stoves.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, touch controls on appliances make more sense because they should last way longer than mechanical buttons, and it's not dangerous for you to focus your attention on them like it would be while driving.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they should last way longer than mechanical buttons

Sorry what lol

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mechanical buttons wear out, touch buttons do not

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol there are mechanical buttons who still work who outlive any touchscreen alive today by 200 years, what are you talking about lol?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

First of all, touch buttons don't necessarily mean touch screens. Second, survivorship bias.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

First of all, I absolutely do not believe that a capacitive sensor + control circuitry + whatever firmware that requires + the OS that I’m sure is running somewhere inside the device + the myriads of technically unnecessary software + OTA update functionality + IoT (the S is for security) integration + enormous attack surface as a result of all of the preceding points is going to last longer or work more reliably than a robustly-engineered switch or rheostat. Second, planned obsolescence is a fairly recent “innovation”.