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The US no longer supports capping plastic production in UN treaty (grist.org)

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Environmental advocates understand the announcement as a reversal, calling it “absolutely devastating.”

The Biden administration has backtracked from supporting a cap on plastic production as part of the United Nations’ global plastics treaty.

This represents a reversal of what the same groups were told at a similar briefing held in August, when Biden administration representatives raised hopes that the U.S. would join countries like Norway, Peru, and the United Kingdom in supporting limits on plastic production.

Nearly 70 countries, along with scientists and environmental groups, support the latter. They say it’s futile to mop up plastic litter while more and more of it keeps getting made.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You mentioned a lot of strategies we can use to fight for what we want, and then said that none of those will work.

Then further down you suggested we should fight for what we want, but offer no concrete way to do that.

Letting Democrats know that they can't buy my vote with corporate campaign donations, is me fighting for what I want.

If they want my vote, they need to earn it by offering real solutions for my worsening material conditions. Not expect it simply because they're not Republicans.

During the Great depression, when the ruling class did give many concessions to the working class, we had a strong left-wing party in politics and we had left-wing organizing in the streets.

This tribalism you are demonstrating with the Democrats isn't working for me. And it's not working for the environment. As Biden just demonstrated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You mentioned a lot of strategies we can use to fight for what we want, and then said that none of those will work.

No, I said all of those will work, to some degree. Even refusing to vote within a targeted framework, where you're demanding certain concessions in exchange for your vote as part of an organized coalition, putting effective pressure on the party to make specific changes, is a pretty good strategy. It's how some key environmental legislation has gotten passed in decades past.

Letting Democrats know that they can’t buy my vote with corporate campaign donations, is me fighting for what I want.

In exactly the same way that refusing to touch the steering wheel until the car starts going a better direction is fighting not to crash the car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I am refusing to vote within a framework. If you look at my initial post I qualified that statement.

If the Democrats continue to move to the right, which they have shown some motions toward post election, I will no longer support their presidential candidates.

If they stay where they're at, I might. And I will still vote for Democrats running in other positions.

2024 was lost by ignoring the material conditions of the working class. As was 2016.

If they don't get the message, I'm going to bet on a different horse.