158
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2024
158 points (99.4% liked)
News
22938 readers
4474 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Don't pretend like they can be trusted. China's lack of human rights, backdoors in hardware, hostility to it's neighbors and constant hacking attempts are a problem.
Oh, yeah, the US Federal Government would neeevvverrr put backdoors into things. Not ever. Not BlackBerry, or iPhone, or messaging apps, or anything...
...oh, wait.
What's your point? The Chinese government backdoored phone switches all over the world. Neither country should trust the other with vital communication or transportation infrastructure. Whataboutism does not equal trust.
One cannot really use a universal fact shared between the two nations as a plot point.
When it's an enemy nation yes it can be used as a point. This is also the exact same reason why China banned most things coming from the USA, and the things that make it there are very tightly controlled by China's government
I'm not pro-China, but will probably sound that way here. We are all nation-states composed of arbitrary rules. We all think we are the best. We all think the others are less. We all do shitty things to our people. We also need each other to survive. It's a clusterfuck that needs a fix. Xenophobia is never the answer.
It's not about xenophobism, it's about not relying on a nation that could have the incentive to flip the switch in a few years when they think it's convenient for them. The US gov sees all the shiny and cheap stuff coming from China as trojan horses
My Brother in Baphomet. I live in the United States of Corporate America.
We have 800 military bases all over the world and the last time we were the good guys in any war was World War Two. And only then begrudgingly. Our govt loooooooved bad mustache man.
Right this very minute. In the year two thousand and twenty four we have a BOOMING slave labor industry and half the country wants to bring back child labor.
Please. Tell me more about how terrible China is. Do go on. I hope there's a PowerPoint. Spare not 1 detail.
American shortcomings do not excuse Chinese atrocities. I'll refer you to the Ughyur, Tibetan and factory dorms people for more info.
US hegemony has led to more human rights abuses and outright devastation than any other nation in history, and it isn't even close.
Fix your own country's bullshit before crying about anyone else's.
No thanks. In the end, this thread is about whether the United States should blindly trust technology from China and the answer to that is no.
Two things can be true at the same time. Your argument is full of whataboutism.
China is not good because America is bad.
Fuck off with that we havent been the good guys since WW2, we were in the right in Korea and in the Yugoslav conflict. Desert storm is a everyones an asshole mode, Vietnam was objectively bad, Iraq and Afghanistan were horrible, and fuck New Granada with a rusty pole.
I don’t live in America, both America and China are fucked up places for citizens rights.
One wrong doesn’t make another right