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Greetings! I have recently ditched google and went with privacy focused alternatives. Such as SearXNG, Invidious, Lemmy etc.
However, while i was using degoogled chromium, i cant install extensions.
Is there any way i can install extensions on Degoogled Chromium? (ik this isnt the right place to ask but eh)
Thanks a lot!
ditch chromium and use firefox
Chromium has its advantages too.
Citation needed
Like what?
When website doesn't work on Firefox.
Chrome is the next Internet Explorer.
Yeaaah i fking hate it "Please install google chrome to use this feature" nah, Imma skip it entirely
I was trying to bid on a couple of municipal projects recently, and got this. Nope. I'll go to the library, maybe.
I'm really curious if it's real or some bullshit. Do chromium based browser have something Firefox doesn't? I'm talking about all those "Please install Firefox to use X" because I doubt it
They have tracking and zero privacy. Some websites wouldnt be profitable or worth it if they couldn't collect and sell data.
Google is a data broker.
Yes, that's obvious, what I mean is if they have some kind of tools/functions that make it be able to do something others can't. The example that comes in mind is when I was checking a website someone suggested me https://my.rhinoshield.eu/ where it says "your browser isn't supported to do whatever it does, please install chrome"
Firefox
vs
Chromium based browser
How do we know the reason it won't work on Firefox? It could be some trivial piece of tracking couldn't it?
It's just a small rural area, population wise, in the South. Probably some free build-a-site that came with hosting.
Pro tip: when a website doesn't work with Firefox, go download a user agent changer and switch it to chrome and watch the website work perfectly on Firefox lol
Oh? Recommendations? I just said I'm waiting to get to the library to bid on a couple of municipal projects bc of this "must use chrome" nonsense.
User-agent switcher is what I use. My only issue so far is that it messes up websites that use recaptcha or cloudflare "Are you a robot" challenges sometimes.
Thanks so much. I'll give it a try!
Wait... You have encountered a website that doesn't work on Firefox? :/ Like finding a needle in a haystack.
It's not uncommon to see certain sites to only work on chromium because the dev used the filesystem APIs that don't exist on FF
This is more common than you think. It's usually not broken entirely, but firefox constantly breaks styling/css stuff on websites I use and build. I've had a few sites ask me to switch browsers because firefox doesn't support x y or z feature too
edit: for example, WebGPU support is currently lacking in FF https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/wiki/Implementation-Status
I use firefox, but I'm not blind to its few problems
Never noticed an issue and if websites using only chrome supported features, it's an issue with the website, not the browser.
That's one way to look at it. If a website works perfectly on chromium, but not firefox, why is this the website's fault?
Because in web development there are compatibility tables of what features work with which browser. If a developer has used a feature poorly supported, they either haven't done their homework, or intentionally made that call.
In web development, most reputable Front End Devs would not choose bleeding edge, barely supported features even if the temptation was there because the user comes first. Generally, you wait until it has been adopted by the main browsers (chrome, safari, ff).
Frankly, if something doesn't work in Firefox, thats like <5% market share. Probably lower for a lot of segments. I am familiar with webdev :) Let's not pretend most devs are checking caniuse for everything. Some sites leverage bleeding edge stuff that necessarily requires chrome, which is also fine. IRL people don't optimize for Firefox and that's usually okay, but sometimes there are quirks. That's all I'm saying
Not perfectly optimised is fine, but non-functional isn't acceptable. I've never seen a quirk personally, and quirks aren't a good reason to help maintain Google's monopoly on web standards.
You may say less than 5% is fine, but it could be the margins in a low margin industry. 2% could be 40% of the profit.
I haven't seen a team operate where a senior isn't checking it.
Usually the bleeding edge stuff is used by small companies trying to establish themselves because they have nothing to lose and no reputation to protect.
Plus, when you got Browser Stack, you catch a lot of problems like this.
Because is your product and you want to "sell" it to the "customer". And you can't blame the customer for not wearing the "correct dress" if they come to your shop. And if you don't want them in your shop it's your loss, not the customers'.
This must be very specific and probably heavly bloated with unecessary stuff? (With probably alot of telemetry and other strange things...)
I have never encountered any breaking of styling/css, except with some specific addons (no-script, heavy dns blocking, ublock in hard mode...)
Not that I doub your claims, but if you have any example on hand I would be very open to give it a try and maybe learn something new in the web realm.
I remember trying to style a range input slider a few years ago and it worked everywhere except firefox. I also had problems with the style of the recently (inverted colors, wrong font). Not a big deal, I still drive firefox daily, but there are idiosyncrasies
Discrepancies between the two systems doesn't mean there necessarily is a certain number of websites that the average user wouldnt be able to use in Firefox.
You are talking from the creator viewpoint not the end user, thats way different.
All true! I suppose I replied to a comment saying sites were nonfunctional, but that's more extreme than what I mean. The only nonfunctional sites Ive read about are from hackernews threads talking about WebGPU.
Chromecast
Can you really consider yourself degoogled if you use a Chromecast??
Then have chromium installed for chromecast only and Firefox installed for normal browsing.
That's what I do, just pointing out that it's factually incorrect to say there's no point to chromium. Everyone's just proselytizing, probably the same nerds who mock apple fanboys.
Dont use chromecast
grayjay only?
Compatibility, security, UI, permission features.
I've used chrome as a browser for almost my entire life. It's kinda nice to still have the chrome i know and love, but with no google spyware.
I didn't drink or have sex for a big proportion of my life (until 16). Was quite happy to ditch old habits.
The thing is, chrome was probably built for spying.
True.
In this case, you can't have your cake and eat it too.