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Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages' location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We need clear good guys and bad guys, so if the IDF is the bad guys (which they certainly are) well that means Hamas must be the good guys (which they certainly are not) and thus this has to be some noble effort.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

No, they killed the hostages and left. If they tried to hold up, and maybe go for a prisoner swap, there'd be more people at risk.

Not claiming Hamas is good but if there's no resistance, they don't kill as many people while finding the bodies.

They're not trying to protect the 'innocent', they didn't want the IDF gunning them down. When they saw the news about the IDF laying waste to everyone, they said "Fuck that," killed the hostages and left.

Warfighting 101, that's why you don't go scorched earth for your hostages. If you make it a smart move to just kill them, they'll just get killed...

Granted if you're not looking for the hostages but looking to make your opponent look more inhuman, well, in that case great idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy 
There's only you and me and we just disagree 
Ooh-hoo-hoo, oh-oh-ho

Dave Mason

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

French people committed all sorts of terrorist acts against the nazis in the early days of WWII, were those french terrorists not the good guys in the conflict? If so, why wouldnt Hamas also be the good guys?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Not necessarily. Crimes against the innocent are pretty fucking hard to justify.