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I do a lot of complaining about the Democrats and their offputting tactics, but I'm having a hard time believing you're actually engaging with any of this in good faith and simply bothered by the unfriendly responses.
These complaints just seem like repeating slogans rather than engaging with the actual failings of the Democratic party because the idea that they have no policy beside "Orange Man Bad" is just obviously untrue. Plenty of real criticisms, but that one's just nonsense. Add to that that the "Orange Man Bad" refrain originated with and is primarily in use by conservatives and this whole thread just doesn't pass the sniff test.
Obama v Hillary 2008 was over whether we do universal healthcare or card check to massively increase union membership. Name ANY serious non-Berniecrat dem who's run on anything anywhere near that scale in terms of moving progress forward since then.
And here is the predictable moving of the goalposts. Now the bar isn't that Democrats have no economic policy, it's that the primary policies weren't grand enough. Except in the primary that elected Joe Biden the major topics of discussion were just as grand and the super moderate who won still greatly increased anti-trust enforcement and canceled student debt. The most salient difference being the Democrats had a weak super majority in 2009 and the slimmest possible majority in 2021.
But anyway. Why do you use 4chan alt-right slogans as the core of your complaint, fellow leftist?
The paranoid accusations from the blue MAGA set are so insane. You sound like a crazy person. Everyone is a secret Russian bot or secret republican troll.
Let's point that conspiratorial thinking in a more constructive direction. Ever wondered why there's always a Lieberman/Manchin? It's almost as if the party structurally figured out ways to not deliver on its promises before landing on just not making any, while enabling the GOP to structurally take over the court, rendering electoral politics moot for at least a generation... Maybe the secret republicans are coming from INSIDE party leadership, not the internet...
It's a simple question dude. Why do you use those terms? You chose them. I didn't put them in your mouth. They're specific words from a years-old /pol / the_donald meme. Because you sound like a channer cosplaying rather than anyone actually immersed in the critiques of the Democratic party by the skeptical left. Plenty of true believers around. They make better arguments and use their own memes.